• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Yeah, I don’t get this.

      In John, there’s a wedding and the planners forgot to bring the booze, so Jesus tells some dudes to fill a bunch of casks with water, and then poof kablamo, they are made into wine via the power of Jesus being irritated.

      There’s certainly a lot of imagery and focus on the blood of Jesus in the Bible… but the whole transsubstantiation/consubstantiation thing is about … the reverse of this, wine either transforming into, or metaphorically representing the blood of Christ.

      I am… not aware of any part of the Bible nor sect/branch/denomination/church that teaches that Jesus at any point turns his blood into wine.

      I don’t think that even happens in any of the ‘expanded universe’ / Gnostic texts.

      In summary:

      Wine -> Blood? Yes*.

      Water -> Wine? Yes.

      Blood -> Wine? No.

      • YesIAmHoomanNoCat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Some Christians (at least roman-catholic) celebrate communion, consuming ‘bread’ and wine that has been blessed. According to them the bread and wine literally become body and blood of Christ. That’s the joke of the comic :)

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          Yes but that’s backwards of what the comic is representing.

          As I said… I don’t think any kind of Christian believes that Jesus’ blood ever turns into wine.

          That doesn’t happen anywhere in the text.

          So… the joke is… based off of a thing that doesn’t happen?

          It would be like making a joke based off the idea that Moses can summon floods.

          He can’t. He’s never shown to be able to do that, he’s shown to be a water bender who can move water out of the way, but not generate it.

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            doesn’t happen anywhere in the text.

            Religion is more than just the book. Catholics literally believe that the wine at mass is literally Jesus’ blood. This is a joke about them. Not about the book that their specific flavor of whatever is based on.

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              The literally believe the blessing of the Eucharist turns the wine into the blood of their nailed god.

              Not that the blood of Christ turns into wine.

              Hope this helps.

            • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Look, I’m not Catholic or any kind of Christian, but…

              Catholics do not believe that Jesus’ blood turns into wine.

              So… acting like they do… is just trolling, basically.

              Its not a joke, because it doesn’t stem from a thing that someone actually believes.

              It is simply asserting that someone believes a thing they do not… which is trolling.

              There are a vast plethora of ludicrous things that varying kinds of Christians believe are literally true, that you could make an actual joke out of.