I just checked. My LG washer and LG dryer both transmit ~30KB a day whether we use them or not. I do like being notified when they finish since they’re in the basement and my work desk is upstairs. I wouldn’t know otherwise.
Have dumb washer and dryer. I set an alarm for an hour. It won’t hurt your clothes sitting for a second.
I miss the one at my old apartment that was combined wash and dry. I could toss stuff in at 4am., eat breakfast, fuck off for work, come back and its all washed and dried with no sitting there all day wet smell.
My dishwasher keeps begging for internet. And it can keep on fucking begging.
From this point on , any useful new technology, any advancement in medicine, will be for the very wealthy. The rest of us will be taking ivermectin and paying unholy fees just to keep driving our falling-apart cars.
they’re learning every crease in your underwear
Long as they dont know my skids…
To be honest they wish they didn’t…
I think in 1980 3.7 GB of data seemed further away then a flying car.
We have the tech for flying cars, it’s just not practical or economical. We’ve even got flying bikes and good jet packs
Isn’t someone in China trying to do flying taxis. No idea about plausibility I just read things on the interweeb.
Flying cars would be a nightmare for the FAA. Helicopters are enough for cases where you need to land in a small area where fixed-wing aircraft can’t
The idiots around my place can’t even get around in regular cars. Pretty damn sure half of them would be dead within 2 months so it’s flying cars.
Oof imagine the severity of car accidents when they occur in the sky
“Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Shirt! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock!” - LG Dishwasher, probably.
I believe that if a dishwasher sees a sock, it might be used for the wrong purposes.
You don’t know me.
I wonder how many cum socks it would take to poison the data collected 🤔
Bro
Pretty disappointed in Lemmy not noticing and downvoting this AI slop.
I’m all for calling out bullshit IoT garbage but zoom in and look closer.
For a while, I carefully scrutinized every image for signs of AI
Now, I’ve decided to not bother with a close examination unless it’s important for some reason. There’s not enough time in the day
You’re right, but also, why did someone use AI to make this image look worse??
The original is included in this article: https://www.tomshardware.com/networking/your-washing-machine-could-be-sending-37-gb-of-data-a-day
Lovely_reader doing the real investigative journalism here, I love it ☺️
So yes it’s ai slopified, but it is also a real graph that didn’t need to be slopified but was done so using AI upscaling.
So, everyone is right in a way fun twist 😅
Pretty sure I saw a post version of this like a year ago or so, with the font not janky in any way
What makes you think this is AI?
I mean, if you zoom in and actually read the text, it very quickly becomes noticeable as fake
Look at the numbers on the scale. Look at the “Downloaid” numbers. Look at the fact that “Syert” is apparently a data unit.
Or how about the fact that something apparently managed to “Uploaid” 97.70 Bytes? Not KB. Not MB. Bytes. You can’t upload .7 bytes, because a byte isn’t divisible by 10. A byte has 8 bits, so it is only measured in eighths. You could upload .625B, or .75B, but not .70B.
Worst part? The original is super easy to find, and also didn’t need up-scaling at all.
Maybe it’s in Gaelic
On the day that’s between 31\ and 59, the scale that goes from 15poc to 301 000 is making up less Uploaid, of which the total is 53,8B Syert. Both totals are 3.66 GB
It’s been around for several years. It’s probably been passed around so much that the image quality degraded and someone sharpened it with AI which disrupted the text.
I saw this probably 6-7 years ago on reddit, the answer was that the appliance was attempting to download and install an update, then failing the update for some reason, so it was constantly re-downloading the patch all day.
Nothing nefarious or AI slop (other that some crappy image correction) about this.
Uploaid and downloaid, and many of the numbers in the chart are in no order
The suggestions that are being used as placeholders for numbers.
True however it could be ai upscaling. I seem to remember this post or at least something similar.
Shit almost missed it. Thank you.
1980: “I bet there will be flying cars in the future!”
2026: “Oh…nonononononono. That would be far too dangerous. Not after 9/11.”
80: “9/11?”
26: “Yeah, they flew a bunch of planes into buildings, and blew up the pentagon, and the world trade center buildings, and an empty field in PA.”
80: “Why would they blow up an empty field?”
26: “Because those men and women inside that plane are HEROS!”
80: “I don’t understand…”
2020: “Hey guys!”
26: “Oh god! 1980, put this mask on. 2020 is here.”
80: “I don’t understand whats going on…”
20122016: "I just shot a gorilla, and altered the future!20 and 26: “FUCK OFF
20122016!!!”Harambe was in 2016, unless you’re from the alternate timeline where the event actually happened in 2012.
Harambes demise was fortold by the Mayans.
…ok, either you somehow have the ability to alter google results before I search for them, or this is some Bearenstein Bears Bullshit!
I SWEAR it was in 2012…wait, was Kony 2012 not in 2012? I remember them both happening in the same summer.
Me after 9/11/2001 seeing all the American flags being waved, reminiscent of Nazi Germany: “I sure hope this doesn’t lead where it looks like it could lead…”
Later: “Fuck.”
Another reason why im buying a speed queen.
For what it’s worth, my LG washer has sent 14.3 MB in the past MONTH, but my Unifi router has misidentified my Nvidia Shield TV as another LG washer. The Shield has downloaded 11.6 GB in the past month, mostly from YouTube. While I don’t doubt it’s possible for a washer to send/receive that much data if it’s compromised and part of a botnet, I’d also question whether the device in question is actually an LG laundry appliance.
why do you even need to have your washer connected to the internet at all?
Knowing when the washer is done with a polite buzz on my wrist is way better than not hearing a beeper from 3 rooms away. It also reports your energy and water usage so you can learn about where you use resources.
There’s a lot to be gained from smart appliances, it’s just that our current system makes the manufacturers adversarial to the users unfortunately.
I wonder what happened to the capability of people to remember a time and read a watch.
I think you skipped the rest of the reply
If your washer and dryer are running for a fixed amount of time instead of monitoring the status of the clothes you are wasting valuable resources.
because those people don’t think, they do what they are told by companies. there is ZERO logical reason to have the thing connected to the internet.
it won’t add soap…it won’t add clothes…it won’t remove clothes…
there is nothing that machine can do better while connected to the internet vs offline…if there is, then it’s a limitation/problem specifically designed to make the product worse, in order to manipulate people to sign up for stupid crap.
If you really don’t think there’s a legitimate reason someone might want their washer connected to the Internet, you need to get out more.
Have you considered that a washer might be in the basement? And the person might be 2 floors away where they can’t hear it? And they might appreciate being able to get a notification when it is complete to remind them to move it to the dryer?
Open your mind a little more.
Have you considered that you could learn how long it takes to do a cycle and then set a timer on your phone?
That’s more effort per wash instead of being something that only needs setting up one and then will work forever. Also, it’s common for post-90s appliances to include sensors and vary the cycle time based on how dirty the water gets. Except for the data privacy and security concerns, which are mainly because it’s proprietary software rather than inherent in Internet-connected devices, there’s no advantage to using your phone timer over getting a notification.
It won’t work forever. It’ll stop working once they stop supporting the app or shut off the servers.
Again, that’s specific to it being proprietary software. I’ve got some devices in my home that are connected to the local network (but not the internet), and have configured Home Assistant (which I’ve got running on an old desktop PC) to send a notification to my phone when it detects that those devices report that they’re finished with what they do. That’ll keep working until I turn off the Home Assistant server or replace the devices.
Whether or not I can isn’t relevant to whether I want to or not. My point is that you act like you can’t conceive of why someone would want it that way. It’s an absolutely narrow minded stance.
I think that you and I are roughly of the same temperament when it comes to what we expect of devices. But can you really imagine
ZERO logical reasons
that anyone might want to? Like getting an alert when their stuff is done?
My phone already does that because I set a timer on it cause I’ve done my laundry before and I know how long it takes to do a cycle.
“How long it takes to do a cycle” is dependent on the mode and settings you pick. Congrats on your streamlined existence, though.
Okay. Pick those settings and set a timer for how long they take. Streeeamlined.
I wouldn’t mind being able to start my washer remotely - I want it to run while I’m not home because it’s noisy, but I don’t want the wet laundry to sit all day like it would if I started it and then went to work.
Doesn’t practically every one have a delayed start option?
Or start it right before you leave. I swear, people in this thread are bending over backwards to try and justify having to connect appliances to the internet. It’s wild.
I mean, in a vacuum, a smart washer is a nice idea which is actually useful. Set the time to start the washer to 430 so it finishes when you get home. That’s a good and useful improvement.
In practice however, gestures wildly there’s the obvious data collection both of your laundry habits and anything the app on your phone can reach.
I’m not opposed to smart tech, but it has to actually benefit to product. A smart TV is a better TV (again, the data collection BS, but I am ignoring that for the moment). It can launch Netflix or Hulu or whatever, and you can watch from the comfort of your couch without another device. It is doing TV better than a non smart TV.
Also, I would love it if there was a good FOSS TvOS.
Why do you have it hooked up to the Internet?
I wonder if usage of a phone app for controling and such impacts data use. If the app connects to an LG server before processing the task or notification, maybe its also grabbing a bunch of data from the phone as well?
What kind of permissions does the app ask for? That’ll tell ya right there.
The only permission I have enabled for LG ThinQ is notifications. I also have a Home Assistant integration that has access to my LG washer/dryer
If I remember correctly the OP of this network traffic graph figured out that their network equipment were accidentally misattributing the traffic to the washer, and it was actually some other device that had caused the traffic.
The toaster
You guys aren’t seeding torrents with your appliances?
Err…anyone actually zoomed in to this weird AI-slop? 😁
Not that I doubt that those “smart” things send whatever they may find…
Canteit, Uploaid, Syert, and Downloaid are all totally normal human words!
Only if you have the latest PLS-protection!
It could also be ai upscaled. I believe I’ve seen a post similar to this before.
I think i did too, but this one was clearly not it. And this shitty quality image upscaled? Very unlikely.
What the fuck kind of data could it be? Crazy shit
Money laundering.
Ba dum tssssssss
Seen a bunch of theories on this but the most likely one is that the washer ended up in a loop of failing firmware updates, downloading the same thing over and over again. It fits with the graph showing that it’s downloaded data. Could also straight up be a reporting bug in the router as someone else said.
Gremlins in the washing machine were watching a movie.
And so far the flying cars that exist are about 10 times as expensive as normal cars. One of those things you buy if you already got the Lamborghini and have still an empty spot in the garage.
Aye, it’s cheaper to keep’yer little peeper cub in its plane sleeper, and just have two cars for either end. Tiny planes are relatively cheap and could be afforded on an upper middle class salary like an engineer, mid-tier lawyer, or software coder, much the same way as a second car.
I mean, maybe that’s not true anymore with how wages have been suppressed while costs have risen, but it was the last time I saw flying cars being seriously discussed.
