Yay, yet another tech company funding racists and transphobes is doing well :/
A lot of people who are aware of Framework are linux users, and the average non-techie user probably doesn’t even know they exist.
Also:
Framework calls the Laptop 13 Pro “A laptop for Linux” in its official marketing, adding that it “is designed and tested for Linux compatibility from the ground up”.
If you market your product to linux users, surely you will attract a lot of linux users.
i had a whinge in the comment section of a recent ArsTechnica article where they reviewed a bunch of Laptops and not one from Framework or Tuxedo haha
I have my eye on a Framework Pro 13 but really don’t need it, i mostly desktop. I don’t Laptop much and just use an old MS Surgace Pro7+ with LMDE installed.
Ars is weirdly pro-windows sometimes , in the comments. I don’t read them as much as I used to.
Linux is legit pretty easy now comparable to Windows. It’s application preferences and familiarity that keeps people at bay. New to computer user, I don’t think they’d struggle anymore with a gnome or kde linux desktop than with windows. to do the regular stuff people do. Browse the internet. Save their photos/documents in some folders
The grapuh of Linux suitability as a function of user skill is a U. At the bottom of user skill, you’ve got your aunt who needs a Chrome bootloader. Linux is perfect for them, maybe better than Windows.
As you get into the middle, you get into “I just need to use Photoshop” or “I just want to play Valorant”. It’s gotten to where software that doesn’t run on Linux is a deliberate choice, but they’re still out there. Gaming has been easing up in large part due to Valve, so the middle of the U has been rising, but it’s still a big dip.
At the top end you’ve got the computer science types developing all these internet and AI based systems almost all of which run on Linux servers in the back end. Linux dominates literally every computing platform except desktops.
I would guess literally 99% of people could switch to Linux Mint and be more than happy.
Maybe because it’s cheaper? You don’t need to pay for Windows license so it’s usually cheaper.
When I was looking for laptops regular laptops came out cheaper. I couldn’t justify the cost of a framework at the time.
True, but don’t they also sell a no os edition?
Not anymore. Ubuntu replaced the no OS option.
Also curiously the only Windows option is Pro. Before you had Home or Pro.
Not anymore. Ubuntu replaced the no OS option.
It’s only Windows and None, they’ve replaced the pre-installed Ubuntu with an installation guide.
From FAQ:
You can choose the operating system that best fits your needs, Windows 11 and Linux are both supported. For Linux, Ubuntu and Fedora are officially supported with installation guides, and the Framework Community offers additional setup guides for many other distributions; other operating systems like OpenBSD may also work but are community-supported.
Not quite, no. Their DIY edition displays the options as you show, but if you select prebuilt then the options include Ubuntu.
I assume with DIY they offer Windows only as a quick way to acquire a license, it may not even be installed. Not sure if anyone can confirm if thet just throw in a Windows USB.
Because no one anywhere should be using Windows Home for anything. It is bad enough with group policy I shudder to think without.
as a framework customer and a linux user im not a fan of that move. plenty of us want nothing to do with unbuntu
if you’re someone who cares enough to not like ubuntu you know how to install another distro, this is for whoever who chooses linux because yes
I’m so happy Framework appears to be doing well.
I’ve already replaced the keyboard of my 5yo OG 13 and plan to Frankenstein this thing as long as I can. I secretly hope the mainboard fails so I’m forced to upgrade.
Maybe after RAM prices recover…
This is it folks! This is when dozens become hundreds!
As a Linux newb, I’m happy to read this. I hope that my next pc is clean from Microslop from the get go.
GOOD GOOOD!
I can’t wait to be able to buy the chassis so I can drop my existing 13 mainboard in. That black chassis is sexy.
Heads up if you are replacing the bottom part of the chassis for the pro version you also need to buy the new pro battery, audio adapter and the new pro speakers as the old ones are not compatible
I am absolutely aware, since I want the larger battery, better track pad, and speaker setup.
is the hardware different somehow?
Different than what? You mean between Linux and Windows? No, but you can have them pre-install an OS of your choice.
Same exact computer, they just don’t charge you for the windows license. So it’s a bit cheaper.
The chassis is the only real difference. The boards are all compatible.
The core 300 series Intel board might be exclusive to it for now, but they said it’s compatible with the old chassis so it’s just that they just don’t offer the board separately yet.No wait they have a listing for it so I’m just blind. https://frame.work/products/laptop13pro-mainboard-intel-ultra-3?v=FRANJZ0007Did they ever post sales figures for no OS vs Windows? You can’t assume no OS = Linux, but considering the target demographic I bet 80% of them planned on using Linux on it.
