• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I know it’s a shitpost, but here’s an interesting piece of History:

    • Back in the late 15th century, before Christopher Colombus officially discovered the Americas (more on that later), the Portuguese and the Spanish made a Treaty - the Treaty of Tordesillas - where they divided the World in half, each one getting one half of it.
    • Whilst making the Treaty, the original proposal was that the dividing line (remember, this was before the first trip around the World) would be a North-South line, located 20 nautical miles East of the Cape Verde Islands (which are just East of the coast of Africa). With the Portuguese side being to the East of that line and the Spanish side to the West.
    • The Portuguese refused that location and instead wanted that line 20,000 nautical miles East of the Cape Verder islands, which was what ended up in that Treaty.
    • Where is now Brazil is to the East of that line, on the Portuguese side, and the rest of South America is to the West of that line, on the Spanish side

    This is why the Portuguese and the Brazilians speak the same language, whilst the rest of South America speaks the same language as the Spanish.

    Nowadays it’s actually believed the Portuguese discovered the Americas before Christopher Columbus did (hence explaining the insistence on the location of that line in the Treaty), though there’s also proof that the Vikings discovered the Americas centuries before that.

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      And the Chinese before that, and what we now consider the native people before that, and tiny sailors from Africa before that.

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    Why do they speak “Brazilian” in Portugal? Same reason people in England speak “American”, obviously. Basic history took the day off, I see. 😅

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    Why is the Spanish they speak in Brazil so fucking weird?? Are they retarded?!? /s

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    Makes me imagine a world where colonization happened in reverse. England would be fucked.

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    Saw a student once using the term “Port of Guesses” unironically in a final submission.

    Like, how do you fuck up that badly that you don’t notice that? I mean obviously it was just laziness, but still.

    So now I’ve got a minecraft village named the Port of Guesses in honor of that nonsense lol

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    Continental drift. This was a part of Brazil that broke off and drifted across the ocean. Then it joined up with the rest of Spain, which had broken off from Mexico. That’s why the rest of Spain speaks Mexican.

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        I don’t know about Portuguese but there is a meme about English:

        [UK flag] English (traditional)

        [US flag] English (simplified)

        Which is not really historically accurate because both standards developed more or less simultaneously after independence and before standardization, the variety was greater than the difference today. But I digress.

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          The Voice Of America has a standardized Simplified English they use for broadcasting to regions where English isn’t commonly spoken.

          There was also that attempt at destupifying English spelling, a very small amount of which stuck. Color.

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            There was also that attempt at destupifying English spelling

            There have been plenty over the decades

            The Voice Of America has a standardized Simplified English

            That’s a good thing but not at all what the meme is about. It’s about words like color vs colour, center vs centre, … The American is arguably easier (and I say that as someone who learned British English at school) but it’s not simplified. Simplified would imply that British is older which isn’t the case. Pre-standard was “anything goes” on both sides of the pond and you can argue historically for what every you like.

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      I don’t think I’ve seen a Riddick reference in… my entire life?

      But I’ve just watched it, for the first time in about a decade, and then the next day I see a screenshot of it on Lemmy?

      Dead internet theory must be real

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        Pitch Black is worth watching.
        The Chronicles of Riddick… meh, Karl Urban delivers though.
        Riddick is a dumbass Pitch Black rip off in the guise of the third instalment in a trilogy that never was.

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        Maybe I’m a bot who has been monitoring your entertainment traffic specifically to incept this shit onto your monitor.

        Or maybe I just got through a Fast and Furious rewatch and had Vin Diesel’s “This is Brazil!” lodged in my brain, but opted for this picture because it isn’t just him in a wife-beater yelling at Dwayne Johnson.