Honestly, if I have to go digital, my money is going to Valve
Valve and GOG.
If they could be trusted to treat digital copies as actual ownership, this wouldn’t be such a big deal.
At least the digital-only playstations will be really cheap… Right?
Stop being suckered into the system that has no respect for you or the money they steal from you.
If buying is not owning, piracy is not stealing
My main problem with this is I can’t sell or trade a digital game after I’m done with it. This needs to be felt with legally.
I feel you but I’m no lawyer.
So. They have chosen death.
The majority of people do not care.
Then the majority of people will get shafted. Nothing new under the sun, I guess.
Buy GameStop everyone! /s
They make most of their money from trading cards now.
It sucks as I love having physical media, but I hardly pay for physical games. I generally find a better deal for digital than physical (steam summer/winter sales). Last game I got on cart a few months ago was MHR.
They are gonna remove games in future like they did with the movies
They already have lol.
Licensed titles are different. Unless they’ve done that for non-licensed titles.
Sometimes the license for the music in games expires and developers/publishers just remove it from the games.
That, by itself, is absolutely outrageous and absurd. The game developer’s failure to license the music appropriately is between them and the music copyright holder; nothing gives them the right to steal the content back from the third parties they conveyed it to in perpetuity.
Kindle literally removed 1984 from people’s devices
That was a case where the seller literally didn’t have the rights to the book. If you search for the title today you’ll find a version that is listed as the Authorized Orwell Edition.
Not the same as what I was referring to. Video games based on licensed IPs, often get taken down from digital game stores because the publisher’s license has ended. What you described with 1984 is someone who shouldn’t be selling the media, having sold it. Sure, it sucks if the title disappeared from your device but maybe that was the only legal resolution?
Conveying something to someone in perpetuity (i.e. “selling” it to them) when you don’t have the right to do so is fraud. Just because Amazon or whoever’s right to continue offering the thing ended doesn’t mean their customers’ property rights somehow end with it.
It’s exactly as absurd as a car dealer stealing back all the cars they previously sold just because they ended their agreement with the manufacturer.
There is absolutely no sane world in which stealing your customers’ property could ever be the “only legal resolution!”
The proper legal resolution would be refunding the customer and then settle it between Amazon and the author that didn’t have the rights to sell what they sold. If I buy some food at the grocery store and there’s a recall due to for example contamination, I can go back to the store and get a refund. I can even go to any store selling the same item without an invoice and get a refund (for their list price I think). This is at least the deal in Denmark. This should be the same if something was sold with a missing license or improper license (if it is sold as a product but the license the seller has expires and is not renewed)
I think it will no longer be available as an option.
I will be buying no more PlayStations then.
Same.
The concept that not everyone has big internet or even good enough might be super strange for these C-level people.
I don’t think they care about those markets (even though they could make a lot of money out of them)
So is that market the last $1 billion still buying physical? A graph was passed around showing sales are down from an $11 billion peak in 2009 nearly 20 years ago.
I wonder how much of that was Switch. I assume physical sales are higher there. But I might be way off.
I want to be mad about this, but I own a PS5 with a disc drive and dozens of games, and none of them are physical. I can’t run the game off the disc and still need the available storage space to run it (and often doesn’t contain a full/completed version of the game), so the disc is just an extra step that gets in the way.
The disc is a physical license you have the right to resell.
Sony I already didn’t intend to buy the next game console, you don’t have to keep trying to push me away.
Am not surprised given how large games today can be. You can have a disk to launch the game when you first get it, but chances are the Playstation will still have to “update” it with the full resources…
I don’t have a playstation, but FFS, I can’t even get the full Halo: Master Chief Collection onto my gaming PC - I just don’t have the drive space. Some game packages are huge today.
It’s this or go back to multi disc installs. Modern discs have 100GB capacity so Halo MCC would be on two. The largest games, like the modern Call of Duty amalgamation-launcher-thing and ARK, would push over 3 discs. I for one wouldn’t mind – it at least keeps the fantasy of owning game media alive, just a little bit – and I wish updates and patches weren’t so damn mandatory.
The disc doesn’t have to have the full data on it…in fact most don’t nowadays and they require downloading the additional data from the store…so there shouldn’t be any issue here in terms of storage… essentially what a Switch 2 game key card is.
It’s for a physical license and entitlement of ownership
This is Sony wrestling away the last bits physical ownership they can take away to force the middleman out and make used games history. This is going to result in higher prices and significantly fewer sales
I know you mean “sales” as in games being temporarily cheaper, but I think the other definition will be true too. Less people buying at all.
So that’s a console game setup, yes?
I use an older PC so everything is backed up on a storage drive but currently right now I’m stuck with a 500 GB SSD to run the games I’m actively playing. It’s nowhere near enough space for what I want to do. Ugh. Am waiting to see when I can get my mitts on a 4TB WD Gold drive (I have two on my MacPro systems) and slap that into the PC for the storage and then get a similar sized SSD (or an NVME drive in an adapter) to use.
I think when I get that sorted I’m also going to switch up to running Bazzite for the games and bail on the Win 10 Pro…
Personally I’ve got a mix - I have most Call of Duty games on Xbox, buying on the same platform as the ones I had in childhood, but have largely dropped the console for my PC running EndeavourOS. My biggest game is a bit of a cheat - Clone Hero - 550GB aha!
Good luck with the upgrade! I have a 4TB HDD, a WD Blue from 2017, and am hoping to upgrade to an NVME SSD before the drive dies of old age. looks at the component market Before I do.
I recommend Seagate Ironwolf Pro or any CMR/HAMR storage for the best balance of capacity, price and lifespan.
Patiently waiting for the bubble to burst.
