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Did they check the marketing department?
Yes but they have to make it look like it wasn’t them.
Big for Matrix and XMPP and maybe Delta, sure why not.
j/k, they’ll never leave discord
It’s my understanding that this essentially amounts to the legal and collateral doxing of hundreds of thousands of people, if it spans all members of these servers.
Stop using Windows. Stop using Discord.
Where will i post the classified documents if not discord?
War Thunder forums.
Unfortunately you’re only allowed to do that if you’re arguing that your (insert X vehicle here) should definitely have been able to take on (insert Y vehicle here) because of something in said classified documents.
You could always take notes from ol’ Petey Hogshit and drunk text them to journalists.
Depends on the classification. TS is only approved on Signal group chats.
Stop using Windows. Stop using Discord.
Yep. On it almost a year now, ever since 10 was EOL’d and I learned Discord was building a profile on every user based on usage.
Linux has been awesome and Discord mostly sucked anyway.
What solution did you end up on post Discord? If you had a group of people you communicated on Discord with, did you have luck migrating them out? I’d like to move, but my use is already really minimal and I feel like getting my friend group out is going to be difficult to non-existent in some cases.
None. I was never invested in it very heavily. I had one channel that I was a pretty involved member on but the whole “you don’t have to tell them how old you are, they’re going to use an algorithm and your usage patterns to deduce it,” I was just haha no, fuck that, and I quit.
I dumped Discord when I heard they were trying to do an IPO, as soon as that happens a company is without fail going to screw all of their customers because if there are shareholders the customer becomes the product.
Not when they announced they’ll require government IDs for age verification?
Already gone by then.
But that was the final straw for Google when I deleted an account that was a legal adult because they demanded my driver’s license for a music video.
Take-Two wants more than just names and is asking for MachineGuid and MSA device identifiers, registration and last-login IP addresses, phone numbers, linked Google and Xbox connections, and OneDrive contents for every account that communicated in three named Discord servers since June 1.
No government is requesting this and nothing can stop this massive transfer of personal information. This is a company mad at facing contempt for their anti-consumer practices and exercising extra-legal methods to find the justice they will buy against the people they deem responsible.
Take-Two is not stopping at who is responsible either. They are scrapping ALL records of everyone who has ever touched those Discord servers. And there is nothing innocent people can do to appeal or stop this.
Corporations are authoritarian motherfuckers.
I‘m more upset about the union busting than their anti-consumer practices but that‘s mostly because I have no interest in buying it. Either way it‘s an insane demand for a company to make. How about just let authorities handle it like everyone else would?
It’s a civil suit, not criminal.
No government is requesting this and nothing can stop this massive transfer of personal information
Plenty of governments don’t need to request it because they already have all this info. Like China.
My point is highlighting that this action is outside of any established set of laws. There is literally no regulation around what a company can do to keep information private.
Aren’t they using the legal system in this case? So it is by definition, within a set of established laws. Though to me it’s not clear if the judge will let them actually get this data. If this were Apple, Apple would probably push back. Microsoft might just give it away for fun though.
My point was simply refuting the “no government” part of your statement. There are plenty of authoritarian governments that are just as bad on privacy
Rockstar and Take-Two are performing the investigation themselves, not law enforcement. This is corporate vigilantism where the business finds someone they think is guilty and hands them over to the police to enact the justice the business advocates. The police should be investigating and requesting records, NOT the business.
OneDrive contents? No company should be allowed access to that. Looks like it’s time to encrypt OneDrive. Actually, all cloud storage should have some encryption that doesn’t rely on the provider.
If you upload to OneDrive, and they turn it on by default with the forced login now for online-only 11, you agree that it is not your data anymore.
Not saying it’s right, but if you care (and even if you don’t, but I expect people are too addicted to “convenience” to avoid it even if they do care) keep your shit out of the systems of Microslop and Be More Evil, Inc.
They’re fishing with a dragnet subpoena for everyone on 3 discord servers whether or not they had anything to do with to the leak.
This is like demanding the lifetime customer history of everyone who had ever gone to a bar where a crime happened.
Oh sick! So if this goes through, precedent is set that anyone who can come up with a reason greater than “my video game leaked”, can legally
brokercollectharvestrequest data from select discord servers that can directly tie the real identity of an individual to their windows device id.I can’t see that being abused at all.
Yeah this feels like a turning point. Right now for most people it’s a vague threat of privacy most people are somewhat aware of like “meh it’s probably fine”. If this goes through, it changes to a very real risk of being systematically doxxed at any time by whoever asks.
Basically, Microsoft spies on everyone. They’ll identify you and let the feds trawl through your OneDrive account. On Windows, it actually takes a very conscious effort to NOT upload files to OneDrive.
They’re targeting a guy just because he unknowingly interacted with the suspect. As a joke.
If anyone questions why people like me have a GrapheneOS pixel connecting to self-hosted cloud storage on a home linux server, this is why.
I saw a story about them preempptively sending information to the FBI, not responging to a warrant, but snitching on someone for their computer activity.
The hypocrisy is strong from this company making a game that glorifies theft.
It’s got at least as much murder too. So, uh…
You have to be this stupid if you’re using discord to discuss and plan illegal activities.
One drive too apparently.
Doesn’t change the fact that this is severe overreach that any sane judge would slap them down for.
You have to be stupid if you’re usinig Discord.
ftfy
“Ooo, I can’t believe I’m going to pay $100 for GTA 6 after all this shit!”
- A Gamer
Fucking peoples lives over for leaking what is essentially advertising is an insane timeline to be living in. In a proper world, Take-two would get laughed out of court and Microsoft /Discord would be under investigation for spying on its users.
Wasn’t there a thread the other week warning everyone about Microsoft device fingerprinting and there were chuds in the comments saying it was a nothing-burger and the fingerprinting was necessary for licensing or some shit? Talk about timing!
I mean, Lazy RedHat narcissitic Tech Bro Linux uses a a device ID as well, but you can purge it and get a new one, or rip the “convenience” parts out and ust configure things like we used to.
It’s not necessary, it just makes things smoother, and easier to set up so it works with no idea what you’re doing.
man I honestly do not know how these people are so brave. Seriously. They’re going to be absolutely giga-fucked when they’re found out, and it sounds like they’re going to be since they’re using OneDrive, Discord, and it sounds like their crypto address is directly linked to a known crypto exchange who validates IDs. It’s only a matter of time. At this point they should be planning on leaving the country IMO.
Also note how they’re asking for Machine IDs. We only heard about their existence a month ago over “security” and already the lawyers are using them. Don’t trust non-open-source.
Take Two won’t forget this, they go after mod developers. They’re only a step down from Nintendo in terms of their legal pushes.
If there is no jail (which at this point I’d be surprised), minimum they’re going to have millions owed. Guaranteed these are some idiot kids who are going to fuck up the rest of their lives.
brave
What a fucking joke. It’s a video game. There are very real issues in the world right now, I wish people would stop talking about this like some white hat saint.
Nobody has any real fucking values anymore
It’s probably some 20 year old who thinks they are making a statement. They are getting gassed up by people agreeing with with stated goal. But gonna really regret it a year from now when they are screwed and everyone forgot
Yeah it’s important to keep perspective. To Take Two this represents material loss, millions of dollars potentially gone, ruining an entire marketing campaign and wasting shitloads of money. (Remember, whether or not you agree, that’s their perspective).
To this hacker’s perspective, it is a 100 dollar game. Do I agree with the fact that gaming has gotten insanely shitty? Absolutely. However at the end of the day it’s a game, and you’re gambling your entire future livelihood and wellbeing.
material loss
This is the one I take issue with. If selling your game involves secrecy and hype, rather than making a good game, then that is solely their fault for a poor business decision.
He/She will never use the term “a hill I’ll die on” the same
I doubt someone does all that alone. Looks more like a semi-professional group to me.
Attachment A asks Microsoft to return that identifier for every account that was a member of, or communicated with any of the three listed Discord servers between June 1, 2026 and the present, in addition to the three handles named in the filings.
I haven’t looked in the directions of these servers… and I feel itchy.
