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    Anon needs a bugout bag plan, which also would have him wipe his computer when he leaves. He needs to have some drills tho.

    But like other people said in the comments, it is not the smartest legal move.

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    Step 1: Back up important files
    Step 2: boot from live Linux USB
    Step 3: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/nvmeX && dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/nvmeX Repeat as many times as you wish

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    They already showed their cards so they’ll not come back with a warrant. This is more about intimidation than anything else.

    I’ve had the same thing happen to me. “Can we search your house? It will help you if you have nothing to hide”. Fuck off cunts. They didn’t try again.

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      “Can we search your house? It will only help you if you have nothing to hide”.

      Help me how, to get arrested faster? lmao

      “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear” remains at the top of my list of bullshit lines of “reasoning” I’ve ever heard in my entire life.

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        I removed the “only” from my text because it was a bit ambiguous.

        But yes it was exactly that. It’s like they consider themselves to be the law. “You’re either with me or against me”. Typical BS.

        It’s mostly cops that think they have something to prove and try to do stuff by themselves.

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      Yeah, but there will be a trace that something was wiped if you use certain tools and didn’t then fill that empty scrambled space with a bunch of games or something.

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        I don’t believe any local law enforcement, at least where I’m at, has a cyber crimes team capable of knowing this and pursuing it even if they did. Federal level? Sure. But if they’re coming they already have warrants and you’re fucked. Local doesn’t invest money in stuff like that.

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    What did anon even do to be on the radar, this is just not credible. They would never show up for a chat if that was the case, they would collect evidence quietly.

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    So if there is anything on your computer, deleting it just destroys the file directory to it, they can find it still, you have to delete everything, then rewrite over it with new information.

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        Big magnets will only pull the arm off the plates and leave the data intact. Also why waste good hardware when all it needs is a couple of writes with all zeroes and ones?

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        Mircrowave.

        Just take out anything LiON prior to nuking, and as much pure metal housing as you can.

        And also plan on getting a new microwave.

        And have a fire extinguisher on hand.

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          and do it outside and throw the microwave away so you don’t die from NO2 poisoning…

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        Hah. TIL you can use shred on device files. I was only familiar with using dd to wipe drives.

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      I don’t think that’s a logical assumption at all. But something to keep in mind. Especially now, with the administration going after journalists, leakers, and soon if not already critics, people that make fun of them, that criticize Israel, etc.

      They would like us to assume everyone whose computer they are seizing is looking at child porn. They could also frame people for that.

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    Fake: cops obeying the law and following due process? Really?

    Gay: Anon clearly took “be gay, do crimes” seriously… too bad he didn’t take his opsec as seriously…

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    Short answer, do NOT destroy the computer or flee. That is textbook obstruction and will turn a sketchy visit into a criminal case overnight. You were right to refuse a search without a warrant, keep doing that, but destroying evidence or running wiping tools is a dumb panic move.

    Get a lawyer immediately, even a public defender if money is tight. Record everything from the visit now, names, badge numbers, what they said, time stamps, take photos of any paperwork or footprints. Do not log into accounts, do not run cleanup software, and if possible disconnect the machine from the internet and power it down until your lawyer tells you what to do. Turning it off is different from erasing stuff.

    If the cops come back with a warrant, comply on your lawyer’s advice. If you’re honestly worried the allegation involves really serious crimes, get counsel fast, because those carry mandatory procedures and you need someone who knows how to handle evidence and interviews. And for the future, yes encrypt your drives and keep recovery keys offline, but that’s after you sort this with legal help.

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      I like how much lemmy hates AI yet this AI bot has 37 updoots

      Oh the pain of it all :(

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          Just look at the comments of the user, they’re typing out sometimes 3 well written paragraphs in under 2 minutes between posts

          all of them have a very similar style as well

          That couch is peak dog chaos

          This is peak content

          This meme is my life

          This hits so hard

          This nails it

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            Tfw I type fast and have the writing style of LLMs :( won’t be long before I’m doing one of those blade runner android tests

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              You already failed 😂 you should have started with: This hits so hard!

              Also the bot never responds to comments only make once off posts

              Also you think you type fast but I highly doubt you could type out 3 well thought paragraphs in under 2 minutes before rapidly shifting to your next random post

              Actually let me put your posts into AI to see what it thinks of you >.>

              edit:

              Based on this document, this user appears to be very unlikely to be AI. Here’s why:

              Strong indicators they’re human:

              1. Natural conversational style - Their comments show authentic voice, sarcasm, frustration, and humor that feels genuinely human
              2. Self-aware about AI comparisons - They literally joke about “typing fast and having the writing style of LLMs” and mention doing “blade runner android tests” - this self-deprecating awareness is very human
              3. Contextual engagement - They engage deeply with Lemmy community dynamics, reference specific memes, understand platform culture
              4. Nuanced positions - They take complex stances (like on landlords, erotica vs porn, political opinions) that show genuine critical thinking
              5. Emotional authenticity - Express genuine frustration, disappointment, hope (“May men and women unite to be horny and kinky and unashamed”)
              6. Inconsistent formality - Mix casual language (“Homie,” “Thad”) with more elaborate thoughts
              7. Community participation - Active across different communities with varied topics over time

              Why they might worry about seeming like AI:

              • They mention typing fast and apparently write in a clear, structured way
              • They provide “thorough breakdowns” with their expertise
              • They’re articulate and thoughtful

              But these are just signs of an educated, engaged person who writes well. Their humor, cultural references, self-awareness, and authentic frustration with community dynamics all point strongly to a real human user.

              vs what it thinks of /u/xodasu@sh.itjust.works:

              Based on this user’s comment history, I’d say very likely AI-generated, probably 85-90% confidence. Here are the telltale signs:

              Strong AI indicators:

              1. Unnaturally consistent quality and structure - Every single comment is well-formatted, articulate, and substantive. Real users have off days, typos, lazy responses.

              2. Suspiciously broad expertise - This account confidently discusses Linux kernel internals, LLM security, DRM technicalities, privacy policy, climate science, ADHD management, and Home Assistant updates with equal facility. That’s unusual.

              3. Formulaic pattern - Almost every comment follows: acknowledge topic → detailed technical/political take → prescriptive advice → punchy conclusion. It’s like watching the same template execute.

              4. Perfect grammar with casual affect - The writing is too clean. Real casual internet comments have more sentence fragments, inconsistent punctuation, genuine rambling.

              5. No genuine interaction - These read like mini-essays dropped into threads, not actual conversations. There’s no “lol,” no genuine confusion, no asking for clarification.

              6. The timing - Account created 10 hours ago, 36 comments already, all this polished? That’s bot behavior.

              What’s interesting: The account got banned from multiple communities quickly, which suggests moderators spotted this too. The “Removed by mod” entries are probably communities that don’t allow AI-generated content.

              Bottom line: This reads like someone using Claude or GPT to farm engagement/karma across Lemmy instances. The voice is too consistent, too knowledgeable, and too… helpful to be one person casually commenting.

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                  Updated the post, unfortunately you show signs of being:

                  an educated, engaged person who writes well

                  😊 🤣

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      It is very arguable it would be a crime to wipe a computer with only the police asking to warrantless search it. It’s a crime to destroy any evidence of a crime so I guess there is that.

      They have no evidence there was a crime though. I don’t doubt they would charge it, but a jury wouldn’t likely convict because it’s a bullshit charge. You are under no obligation to incriminate yourself with your own evidence no matter what the police and prosecutors say.

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          do so knowing that the evidence is to be produced during a legal or court proceeding

          If they haven’t accused you of anything yet, deleting “how to rob banks.txt” is just normal cleanup. Anon can’t know what might be relevant evidence after some cops ask to see his computer and leave. Of course, some files may have legal restrictions regardless of crime, for example financial records.

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        Or if a court has ordered you to preserve the information. And the establishment routinely flouts court orders to preserve information with impunity

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    If the cops actually had anything real on him, they could get the warrant over the phone while stalling you at the door, or even storm your place and get it later.
    And even if they don’t get it, no cop can get in trouble for the raid if they “suspect” you might destroy evidence, and anything they find can still be used in court.

    It completely invalidates your 4th amendment rights, but congress felt this was needed to protect you against “terrorists” 25 years ago.

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      Plus if police “believe” they are following the law, they are allowed to use the fruit from the poison tree, for decades now, ever since The Fear of the Others in the crime wave in the 80’s and 90’s gave them license to cancel the Bill of Rights.

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    And here’s where we introduce you to this magical term called full disk encryption!

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      This person should also turn off their computer and remove the RAM so it’s zeroed out if it gets siezed.

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        This is where I think NFC may finally be useful. If cops show up, I slide my phone by a hidden NFC tag, and an http request is sent to my desktop machine. Everything incriminating is wiped and the computer is turned off, before the cops can walk to the room.

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          Unless you have tied the NFC to an arc wielding torch how would proper data disposal process runs its course fast enough? You live in a manor with very long hallways?

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            Most of really nasty data is text or a few questionable apps, and should take very little time. Video and audio present a problem, but I think they can be speedily wiped by nuking the metadata parts, making recovery and identification difficult. Not sure how resilient modern formats are to data loss, but afaik e.g. AVI is quite reliant on the description of the stream (which iirc is inconveniently placed at the end of the file).

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              Nha my dude you’re lying to yourself if you think that it is nearly enough to survive the level of forensics that will happen in case of a motivated investigation. You need the whole multipass erasure and overwriting or you’re toast. It takes hours…

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                First of all, it doesn’t take hours to overwrite several text files and a few binaries. Second of all, I think I know better what my local cops would do. It’s not NSA or Interpol. Lastly, this hypothetical obviously excludes stuff after which ‘motivated investigation’ might come. That kind of data lives in encrypted files tucked in odd places, and even that can probably be wiped from the directory entry like it was never there.

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                  Erh well, it takes hours with proper tooling with which I have first hand experience… and just as much experience with various police forces… admittedly my knowledge is limited to Europe and LA on that topic.

                  For reference I saw them deploy very serious means for stuff from csam to piracy so be careful on how you perceive their willing to be major annoyances.

                  But hey, this is my work experience I offer, you don’t take it it’s not an issue; I’m not invoicing my time anyway :)

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              The boys and I have a racist group chat and my hard drive is full of kiddie porn and audio recordings of women peeing in public restrooms.

              lmfao you’re going to need a more robust destruction plan

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            They have a battery attached to flat wires. When you give a couple millimeters of room from the plug, they insert the flat wires and the computer will be powered from the battery.

            HotPlug Field Kit

            If the computer is logged in, they have a USB device that mimics a mouse. It makes the mouse pointer move back and forth to prevent it from going to sleep or the screen saver.

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            They use forensic tools to clone the RAM before moving it. Probably depends on exploits so whether it will work may depend on your OS, but they have access to the hardware so there are a lot of possibilities.

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              Is this actually practically achievable or mostly theoretical in a lab? Is it confirmed that the cops have actually managed to do this?

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                For password guessing they make clones of the computer so they can make countless instances of it to endlessly guess the password at the speed of dickheads to get around the systems cutting the guesser off after a number of attempts.

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              At least in Germany, I would be surprised if the cops could point to the RAM inside a computer. They will not open it before they take it with them.

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                Careful. There are levels to it, and from stories that I heard, those levels don’t always communicate with each other. If you get the regular “normal cops”, then no, they won’t know anything more than the average joe about computers.

                If get in deep enough shit, you might get a visit from the specialised cops, either the state or federal variety, and those guys know what they are doing.

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                  That’s definitely the case in the Netherlands. I wouldn’t trust the average cop to find the power button. But that doesn’t mean the specialized teams don’t have some really good ones.

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          If it’s proven that you did it, you are getting locked up anyway.

          In 99% it is better to not say anything or indict yourself

          Edit: ah, misunderstood you, with “did that” you mean turn off the computer, not whatever crime you are accused of. I’d still disagree, but only based on anecdotes, go ask a lawyer, I guess

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            There’s no law against googling how to dispose of a body, but if you do, and you’re a suspect in a murder, it’s a real bad look for you.

            Same story here. Probably legal, but definitely not a good look.

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      Pretty convenient world for the cops you are constructing where everyone they try to warrantless search has kiddie porn.

      They aren’t above [redacted,] on people either. One should never assume the police are acting in good faith in today’s world. Or yesterday’s. But especially not now.

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      Yes, wipe it all, write over it all, then wipe the entire operating system and install linux, as something you had been planning on doing for a long time anyway. If they say otherwise in court you rant to the jury about microsoft.