Why do men date women that’s like height of a children to them?
EDIT: I know reddit banned Jailbait, but can you people move to 4chan and not Lemmy? Fuck anyone who prefers Lolitas, Jailbait, underage looking, petite, child-height or midget if you’re normal height, etc., it’s fucking creepy and you know it. You also know I’m not talking about simply “shorter”, but those cases where it really starts to look off
EDIT2 Why do you people keep talking about men dating shorter women? I’m talking about extreme differences not common ones - whole another level, my GF is 20cm shorter too, that is perfectly normal. Why is it so hard for many to understand what “children-height to them” means?
You have any clue how many women are 6 feet tall? Less than 1%, you are effectively saying tall men should be banned from heterosexual relationships that’s why you are getting yelled at and down voted, I’m 6’2" and most women look like children next to me height wise
Do you know what relativity means? You keep saying it
A 6 or 7 year old child is ~120cm
Average person 160cm to 170cm
Relatively, a 3:4 ratio
For a tall person at 200cm (6’6") that would be the same as 150cm
Average woman is 160cm
Yes a 200cm person standing next to a 150cm person looks like an adult standing next to a child height wise. Yet to them a 150cm person is much taller than 120cm. 1 foot difference.
Why does your mind jump to “they look like they are with a child?”
Women prefer, on average, a larger height difference between themselves and their partner (i.e. males being much taller than themselves) than men do. This effect is even more pronounced when examining satisfaction with actual partner height: women are most satisfied when their partner was 21 cm taller, whereas men are most satisfied when they were 8 cm taller than their partner.
So a roughly average height 5’4" (~1.62m) woman, on average, would ideally pick a 6’ (~1.83m) tall man, all else held equal.
By the same kinds of math, on average, men prefer to be ~8cm / ~3 inches taller than their ideal height female partner.
So a roughly average height man of 5’10" (~1.78m) would ideally prefer their gal to be 5’7" (~1.70m)
So I don’t know, you tell me why generally speaking, women ideally prefer their men to be ~8 inches taller than themself, but men ideally prefer being only ~3 inches taller than their women.
Women generally have a stronger preference for taller men, than men have a preference for shorter women.
But you framed the entire scenario as being caused by men.
Why do men date women that’s like height of a children to them?
Its… also amazing that you yourself date someone 20cm shorter than you.
So, what, if you yourself were 5cm shorter than you are, and your partner was 5cm shorter than she is… would that be such a difference that the woman would now be ‘child sized’?
Short people do just exist, the image is an intentional joke making fun of height difference that is present in this consensual relationship.
You describe this as jailbait despite the woman looking like she’s in her upper 20s or lower 30s in age.
Like, not to be rude to the woman in the picture, but how many under 21 or under 18 girls… have forehead wrinkles, bags under their eyes?
I’ll admit, jailbait by definition does not fit in, so it was incorrect of me to use that word, but I’ll stand by the idea that it does feel weird to me in a way that resembles liking young girls.
Answer me this - is it perfectly fine/morally right of me to watch a porn of tall dude doing it with a very short one?
NSFW, but here is a mild porn example, I’ve personally seen more extreme ones; NSFW OPEN AT YOUR OWN RISK
Personally, watching this makes me slightly uncomfortable. No one else, really?
I’ll admit, jailbait by definition does not fit in, so it was incorrect of me to use that word,
Thank you for seeing and saying that.
but I’ll stand by the idea that it does feel weird to me in a way that resembles liking young girls.
I mean… very broadly, yes, sure, I get that, but I feel like you have to ignore the details and context.
But I will also grant that the non actual OP image, that is of higher quality, makes it more clear that the woman is likely not a child or very young adult, than the blurrier OP image does.
Answer me this - is it perfectly fine/morally right of me to watch a porn of tall dude doing it with a very short one?
Well frankly that’s a complicated question, mostly because: What exactly do you mean by ‘very short one?’
Apologies if I am wrong but it seems like English may not be your first language, and that that might be the cause of a lot of the kerfuffle here.
If you mean an actual dwarf, someone with dwarfism, well then that, to me, becomes a discussion of basically… is it more the case that such a person basically has few other valid employment options by way of discrimination, or is it more the case that… they’re fully consenting adults, making their own choices, which they understand or are in control of?
If you mean a person who is not a dwarf, but is simply fairly short… I basically still have the same kind of answer, I guess, just with there likely being a good deal less discrimination against someone who is simply short, but not a dwarf?
Personally, as a matter of personal preference, I would not be interested in porn with dwarves, and yeah I probably would be weirded out a bit between an extreme height mismatch with non dwarves…
But ‘being weirded out’ and ‘morally endorsing or condoning something’ are not the same thing to me.
Lots of people do and enjoy things that I do not, that I find weird, but … I don’t think they’re de facto morally bad just because I find it weird.
Because I know that that all works in reverse as well: I’m into things many other people find weird or strange, but like, I’m not harming anyone.
Frankly, I just don’t like to watch any kind of porn where anyone is getting just utterly physically dominated by another person.
I don’t like porn where a guy will like, insult or or degrade or very physically forcefully slap any part of a woman, or that is styled as if its the gals boss or something… that turns me off.
But, some people are into both or either of those things.
Sorry if this is kind of a non answer, but I guess the short (lol) version would be:
Such things generally yes do make me some amount of uncomfortable, but me being comfortable is not the same thing as something being morally condemnable.
Are these things moral?
Basically, thats a pretty complicated question to me, and I’m honestly not totally sure how I feel about that.
EDIT: Also I did not watch that video, I’m making breakfast at the moment lol.
You’re right, English is my third language. Thank you for giving this some thought.
I have a somewhat wild and likely unprovable theory (let’s see how many downvotes this comment gets) that more than half (60-70%?) of men who like the “very short ones” are also into dwarfism, but don’t quote me on that.
… Well, that would an interesting survey, I… guess?
Don’t think you could do it very academically based off of trying to profile lemmy voters though, hah.
EDIT:
But also, I say this to most non English first language speakers, because it is true:
You speak English better than a considerable number of Americans who only know English, so… generally I’m very impressed that you can speak 3 languages to any extent, hahah!
Love is blind. Don’t wedge yourslef inbetween folk who are happily together and are living normal lives. I know a guy that is more than a head taller than his partner, and they are happily together. Heck, it’s she that is more dominant in their partnership xD
Is such height diff a reason to pay more attention? Maybe. But outright assuming something is wrong just because you’ve got a gut feeling is foul.
Translation for this person because they’ve rightfully been misunderstood: Why does it seem like there is a disproportionate amount of tall men ending up in relationships with short women? This seems to be a statistical aberration when compared against other factors.
The answer is societal expectations of tall men/short women, kinks, standard height deviations among genders.
Why does it seem like there is a disproportionate amount of tall men ending up in relationships with short women?
The dick looks bigger next to a smaller person and you feel more powerful being able to move such a small person around so easily in bed. Gay men have bears and twinks. This isnt just a heterosexual thing. I would know.
Oh man, I’m giving up on this thread. I seriously don’t know how I could more clearly explain what I’m talking about. I even edited my main comment to no avail. I’M NOT TALKING ABOUT TALL MEN SIMPLY DATING SHORTER WOMEN, my gf is 20cm shorter too. I quite literally meant child-height in relativity.
I don’t need a definition of a children’s height to have average image of their height and feel disgust when I see grown ass man or tall dude with one that next to him makes me wonder if that’s their child or wife
Literally how is this stupid? It’s how I feel. It’s my feelings, which are objective to me that are not imaginary and I cannot ignore. I believe there is clear logic behind it and rest is a matter of personal opinion or your own “feel” towards the matter, but is it really stupid?
You can have stupid feelings, especially once they concern how you treat others. There’s a big difference between “idk why, but I really like cherry flavored ice cream” and “idk why, but these people make me feel uncomfortable”, because the latter opens you up to treating others with prejudice.
It’s your job to wrestle with them and make sure your feelings are justified, or to change your mind.
Huh? My comment literally says the opposite - asking why you do that. There are similar height people for everyone, dating someone that’s nearly two times your height just borderline seems like a fetish
Then a large percentage of tall men would have to stay single, since women are shorter on average. I’ve personally met very few women who are my height, and I’m not even that tall.
I doubt a large percentage of men are having problems finding a woman that’s not such a drastic height difference. I never said shorter, I’m talking about the difference being so big it starts to seriously look off. That’s also not very common, quite rare actually, but you know the few men I’m talking about.
EDIT: This reminds me of a rather popular word where I live called lolita
Why do men date women that’s like height of a children to them?
EDIT: I know reddit banned Jailbait, but can you people move to 4chan and not Lemmy? Fuck anyone who prefers Lolitas, Jailbait, underage looking, petite, child-height or midget if you’re normal height, etc., it’s fucking creepy and you know it. You also know I’m not talking about simply “shorter”, but those cases where it really starts to look off
EDIT2 Why do you people keep talking about men dating shorter women? I’m talking about extreme differences not common ones - whole another level, my GF is 20cm shorter too, that is perfectly normal. Why is it so hard for many to understand what “children-height to them” means?
You have any clue how many women are 6 feet tall? Less than 1%, you are effectively saying tall men should be banned from heterosexual relationships that’s why you are getting yelled at and down voted, I’m 6’2" and most women look like children next to me height wise
Tinder
ah yes, children and short women are the same. much science 🧪🐈
Right, because “height of a children” means children. I quite clearly meant it in relativity.
Do you know what relativity means? You keep saying it
A 6 or 7 year old child is ~120cm
Average person 160cm to 170cm
Relatively, a 3:4 ratio
For a tall person at 200cm (6’6") that would be the same as 150cm
Average woman is 160cm
Yes a 200cm person standing next to a 150cm person looks like an adult standing next to a child height wise. Yet to them a 150cm person is much taller than 120cm. 1 foot difference.
Why does your mind jump to “they look like they are with a child?”
… Women generally, statistically, indicate an ideal preference to date men who are ~21cm / ~8 inches taller than themself.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020
So a roughly average height 5’4" (~1.62m) woman, on average, would ideally pick a 6’ (~1.83m) tall man, all else held equal.
By the same kinds of math, on average, men prefer to be ~8cm / ~3 inches taller than their ideal height female partner.
So a roughly average height man of 5’10" (~1.78m) would ideally prefer their gal to be 5’7" (~1.70m)
So I don’t know, you tell me why generally speaking, women ideally prefer their men to be ~8 inches taller than themself, but men ideally prefer being only ~3 inches taller than their women.
That is so far off from what I was talking about. Me and my GF have 20cm difference too
My point is you got the causation backwards.
Women generally have a stronger preference for taller men, than men have a preference for shorter women.
But you framed the entire scenario as being caused by men.
Its… also amazing that you yourself date someone 20cm shorter than you.
So, what, if you yourself were 5cm shorter than you are, and your partner was 5cm shorter than she is… would that be such a difference that the woman would now be ‘child sized’?
Short people do just exist, the image is an intentional joke making fun of height difference that is present in this consensual relationship.
You describe this as jailbait despite the woman looking like she’s in her upper 20s or lower 30s in age.
Like, not to be rude to the woman in the picture, but how many under 21 or under 18 girls… have forehead wrinkles, bags under their eyes?
I’ll admit, jailbait by definition does not fit in, so it was incorrect of me to use that word, but I’ll stand by the idea that it does feel weird to me in a way that resembles liking young girls.
Answer me this - is it perfectly fine/morally right of me to watch a porn of tall dude doing it with a very short one? NSFW, but here is a mild porn example, I’ve personally seen more extreme ones; NSFW OPEN AT YOUR OWN RISK
Personally, watching this makes me slightly uncomfortable. No one else, really?
You didn’t address it, so I gotta ask, did you read the part about causation at all?
Thank you for seeing and saying that.
I mean… very broadly, yes, sure, I get that, but I feel like you have to ignore the details and context.
But I will also grant that the non actual OP image, that is of higher quality, makes it more clear that the woman is likely not a child or very young adult, than the blurrier OP image does.
Well frankly that’s a complicated question, mostly because: What exactly do you mean by ‘very short one?’
Apologies if I am wrong but it seems like English may not be your first language, and that that might be the cause of a lot of the kerfuffle here.
If you mean an actual dwarf, someone with dwarfism, well then that, to me, becomes a discussion of basically… is it more the case that such a person basically has few other valid employment options by way of discrimination, or is it more the case that… they’re fully consenting adults, making their own choices, which they understand or are in control of?
If you mean a person who is not a dwarf, but is simply fairly short… I basically still have the same kind of answer, I guess, just with there likely being a good deal less discrimination against someone who is simply short, but not a dwarf?
Personally, as a matter of personal preference, I would not be interested in porn with dwarves, and yeah I probably would be weirded out a bit between an extreme height mismatch with non dwarves…
But ‘being weirded out’ and ‘morally endorsing or condoning something’ are not the same thing to me.
Lots of people do and enjoy things that I do not, that I find weird, but … I don’t think they’re de facto morally bad just because I find it weird.
Because I know that that all works in reverse as well: I’m into things many other people find weird or strange, but like, I’m not harming anyone.
Frankly, I just don’t like to watch any kind of porn where anyone is getting just utterly physically dominated by another person.
I don’t like porn where a guy will like, insult or or degrade or very physically forcefully slap any part of a woman, or that is styled as if its the gals boss or something… that turns me off.
But, some people are into both or either of those things.
Sorry if this is kind of a non answer, but I guess the short (lol) version would be:
Such things generally yes do make me some amount of uncomfortable, but me being comfortable is not the same thing as something being morally condemnable.
Are these things moral?
Basically, thats a pretty complicated question to me, and I’m honestly not totally sure how I feel about that.
EDIT: Also I did not watch that video, I’m making breakfast at the moment lol.
You’re right, English is my third language. Thank you for giving this some thought.
I have a somewhat wild and likely unprovable theory (let’s see how many downvotes this comment gets) that more than half (60-70%?) of men who like the “very short ones” are also into dwarfism, but don’t quote me on that.
… Well, that would an interesting survey, I… guess?
Don’t think you could do it very academically based off of trying to profile lemmy voters though, hah.
EDIT:
But also, I say this to most non English first language speakers, because it is true:
You speak English better than a considerable number of Americans who only know English, so… generally I’m very impressed that you can speak 3 languages to any extent, hahah!
Love is blind. Don’t wedge yourslef inbetween folk who are happily together and are living normal lives. I know a guy that is more than a head taller than his partner, and they are happily together. Heck, it’s she that is more dominant in their partnership xD
Is such height diff a reason to pay more attention? Maybe. But outright assuming something is wrong just because you’ve got a gut feeling is foul.
Translation for this person because they’ve rightfully been misunderstood: Why does it seem like there is a disproportionate amount of tall men ending up in relationships with short women? This seems to be a statistical aberration when compared against other factors.
The answer is societal expectations of tall men/short women, kinks, standard height deviations among genders.
The dick looks bigger next to a smaller person and you feel more powerful being able to move such a small person around so easily in bed. Gay men have bears and twinks. This isnt just a heterosexual thing. I would know.
Oh I know that and it’s why I included kinks and the only reason it had a heterosexual tint at all is because the question did.
Bi male twink here, can confirm this is a thing.
Oh man, I’m giving up on this thread. I seriously don’t know how I could more clearly explain what I’m talking about. I even edited my main comment to no avail. I’M NOT TALKING ABOUT TALL MEN SIMPLY DATING SHORTER WOMEN, my gf is 20cm shorter too. I quite literally meant child-height in relativity.
That’s stupid then, no offense. The height of children ranges greatly just like the height of adults, there’s considerable overlap.
It isn’t something clearly defined.
I don’t need a definition of a children’s height to have average image of their height and feel disgust when I see grown ass man or tall dude with one that next to him makes me wonder if that’s their child or wife
Literally how is this stupid? It’s how I feel. It’s my feelings, which are objective to me that are not imaginary and I cannot ignore. I believe there is clear logic behind it and rest is a matter of personal opinion or your own “feel” towards the matter, but is it really stupid?
You can have stupid feelings, especially once they concern how you treat others. There’s a big difference between “idk why, but I really like cherry flavored ice cream” and “idk why, but these people make me feel uncomfortable”, because the latter opens you up to treating others with prejudice.
It’s your job to wrestle with them and make sure your feelings are justified, or to change your mind.
Yes
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Are short women supposed to date children or something?
Short men: 🥺
Short men are men, not children
And yet your reply mentioned children instead of short men. Curious.
I think I just don’t know what 🥺 means
https://www.wikihow.com/Pleading-Face-Emoji
Huh? My comment literally says the opposite - asking why you do that. There are similar height people for everyone, dating someone that’s nearly two times your height just borderline seems like a fetish
Maybe, and this is just a crazy hunch, but maybe they fell in love for reasons other than height.
Then a large percentage of tall men would have to stay single, since women are shorter on average. I’ve personally met very few women who are my height, and I’m not even that tall.
I doubt a large percentage of men are having problems finding a woman that’s not such a drastic height difference. I never said shorter, I’m talking about the difference being so big it starts to seriously look off. That’s also not very common, quite rare actually, but you know the few men I’m talking about.
EDIT: This reminds me of a rather popular word where I live called lolita
Well maybe you’d try to choose a partner solely based on your depraved fetishes but most people prioritize other things.
Reading is very hard
Height is rather irrelevant to people besides you closet pedophiles, is what I was saying if reading is too hard for you.
But why would you say that me of all people would prefer it, the one person who visibly shows disgust towards it?
You’re a wonderful example of that.
and?
And, it looks like a fetish. It’s just weird. I sometimes can’t tell if that’s your daughter or a wife
and?
Calm down because wtf is your deal
Do I sound mad or something? Is it truly such an unpopular opinion to say that aiming for girls who are half your size is weird?
You are relating people who like shorter people to pedophiles when you keep bringing children into the discussion.
If it’s weird to you, don’t date a grown adult who’s shorter than you. You don’t have to tell other people how to live their life.
I’m not into furries. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to go online and shit on anyone who is.
It’s quite okay if youre not psycho
c/opisafuckingidiot
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