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    I certainly hope Denuvo steps on something pointy, but there’s no way I’m installing an HV bypass on any machine.

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      That shit does not run on Linux, so I guess I’m in luck. I bet Denuvo is doubling down and adding kernel level DRM to all games. Bit worried about what that means for Linux gaming, but I will survive. I’ve been on Linux for like a decade now, I won’t install windows to play some silly games.

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        That may be, but using Denuvo is not free, and the more invasive implementations affect performance more, and by extension reviews and system requirements. I don’t believe you will see a huge uptick for those reasons alone.

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        Playing it on a Windows VM on Linux with your GPU passed through is probably the safest way to play these hypervisor bypass games.

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          So, an OS that runs a HV that runs a HV that runs an OS that runs a translator that translates a windows-game to the original OS.

          If you had told me that absurd shit 30yrs ago I would have laughed at you.

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            Yes, and all that to bypass, not remove, a protection mechanism that runs 100% in user space with no additional privileges. It really would be impressive if it wasn’t so horrible for consumer rights and preservation.

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        It’s the bypass in question that falsifies validation data to the Denuvo DRM. It runs under the OS (Windows in this case), which gives it more permissions than your operating system itself. You have to disable a significant amount of your security, reboot, run your game with the HV bypass, reenable your security, reboot, and then you can use your PC normally again. Even if you trust the HV bypass software (and I don’t personally think that’s a good idea), you are still opening your machine up to attack. If you are perfect in your actions and very cautious you can minimize the risk, but slipping up could leave your PC compromised. It’s just too much risk.

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          I think it is fine if you install the games on a PC that

          • Doesnt contain any personal data and is only for playing PC games

          • Is never connected to a network, public or private (always offline)

          Otherwise I wouldn’t recommend ever installing HyperVisor, and if you do, wipe the drive and reinstall the OS. Maybe even better, wipe the drive, destroy it, and then replace it with a new drive. That is the best way to know for certain there is no security compromise on the drive.

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          On my last computer I downloaded the Harry Potter game and it was cracked by Empress, a vicious anti-trans right-wing Russian woman. I just hung out in a telegram when the game was released and man the toxic shit she spewed was nasty. Proper fking nasty.

          And I purposefully disabled the security on my PC and installed something she made.

          Yes it was stupid, but I was lonely and really nostalgic for Hogwarts and felt less like donating actual money to a billionaire trans-hater than possibly giving a Russian trans-hater access to my machine.

          • BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world
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            In real life, she is probably a gay male accountant from Ohio. I feel like people in these situations go out of their way to create alternate identities.

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              Probably not in the US but yes…

              Everyone who does this kind of shit in the ‘land of the free’ gets to find out just how much freedom corporations have.

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              Idk man, should’ve seen the shit she was writing. Also she’s a pretty big deal in the cracking circles afaik.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_(cracker)

              But yeah nothing there to disprove your hypothesis though, but the way it’s been going in the world, there’s definitely more Russians pretending to be Americans online than the other way around. Lemmy is chock full of Davels (davel@lemmy.ml)

    • 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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      The HV bypass is a blow to both the industry and piracy. All games are easy to pirate now, but aint no way I’m messing with my machine so much just to pirate those games.

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        I don’t think the situation is practically any worse than before for piracy if you just ignore these bypasses. It’s not like there was a huge crowd of crackers ready to take on denuvo before they were pushed out by these bypasses. Proper cracks still depend on basically just that one guy.

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    Playing a game for free is not even remotely worth allowing a crack to have absolute root access, but maybe this will make companies reconsider whether it’s worth paying for Denuvo. Probably not.

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    I played RE9 recently thanks to voices38 crack.

    Even the achievements were working, insane experience for something pirated.

    It’s not the same convenience of Steam, but you can achieve similar:

    • I used a PowerShell script with rclone + Ludosavi backup to backup all my game saves periodically.
    • Add to Steam as non-Steam game to get controller support, screenshot and recording features.
    • And Hydra launcher (or Achievement Watcher) to save my played hours and get achievements notifications.

    Pro: You actually own your data instead of Steam owing it. All tools are open source and you can backup the database files.
    Cons: Less convenience.

    Already 100% all achievements.

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        Ik, but RE9 was one of the few games cracked properly. That and Black Myth Wukong today.

        Given the rate voices38 is doing it, I dare to say he’s cracking all the rest, he probably figured out something at this point, just need to reapply the same skills on different Denuvo games.

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          Thanks, I didn’t know black myth was cracked today. I certainly hope you’re right since these hypervisor bypasses seem to be soaking up all of the attention instead of proper cracks.

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          The bypass probably allows more extensive dynamic analyses to be run on the running process. Crack development was seriously hindered by Denuvo’s limit of five activations per day.

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    Ain’t no way I’m paying full price for less updates and a rootkit. It’s always better to wait on these games.

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    Been out of the loop lately, how much time does it takes them on average to crack a new released game?

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      It’s just a few weeks per game. It has gotten to the point where people are working down the list of uncracked games from the previous years.