• Klear@piefed.world
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    It took me about 15 seconds to find an uncensored version, and it has more pixels to boot. Fuck off with this this dumb censorship.

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    I live in NYC. I’ve seen plenty of folks sleeping on the ground, so getting rid of the benches doesn’t actually affect them that much.

    It only makes life tough on the people who don’t habitually lie on the concrete.

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      It very much does in winter at least. Benches conduct significantly less heat away from your body than the ground, which can more easily cause death of hypothermia. Even with layers of insulation.

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        Getting rid of all the benches won’t make the homeless disappear, obviously. They’ll just sleep on the floor instead. So this trend is just the culling of homeless people, but with extra steps, and plausible deniability.

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    I mean a subway station isn’t a homeless shelter and homeless people are unfortunately very often mentally ill or addicted, which can create danger for commuters.

    Shit situation though

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      Getting rid of benches doesn’t get rid of the homeless. They’ll still be homeless with no where else to go without them. It just makes things worse for everyone.

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        I mean for the transit authority it’s one tool, but I agree it’s not the best one. Preferably keep the benches but hire more security people.

      • halcyoncmdr@piefed.social
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        Not just housing, but mental health services for everyone.

        I would say we can probably link something like 80% of the bullshit going on in modern society to widespread mental health issues. Definitely a large part is constantly electing obvious sociopaths to political offices. And allowing psychopaths that obviously lack empathy entirely to run corporations and employ large parts of the populace while missing a fundamental part of what many would consider their humanity.

        • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPM
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          A big driver of mental health issues are economic pressures. When you have to work long hours for shit pay, it does a number on you. Addiction rates increase with poverty, and our current economy is stressful for all but the richest and most fortunate. Even high earners have to work themselves to the bone for their position, and their lack of work/life balance drives them to isolation.

          So it all comes back to capitalism. Solving economic inequities is a prerequisite to addressing almost all of our problems.

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            The entire system in the US is made to keep as many people as possible teetering at the brink of absolute poverty and scared shitless from that happening (since what follows that is mostly homelessness or prison, both dealth with in the most inhumane way imaginable), since that makes it much easier to exploit those people to the max.

            The point of the Social Safety Net was to stop that, but whatever little of it ever existed has been torn down in the US (and is even being torn down in other countries as mainstream politicians there have aped American “liberal” politics)

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                All the right wingers are hard at doing so, as are the “center”-“left” mainstream parties though in a more dilluted way - essentially the conquests of the post-War period are being destroyed, same as in the US but starting from a higher basedline in Europe so there’s more to destroy before reaching the bottom.

                Shit, even the “fringe” “left” has a large subset of parties led by people whole detached from any single global and consist ideology (such as the older ones like Socialism, Social Democracy or Anarchy) who grew up only ever knowing Neoliberalism and thus whose idea of being “left” is the Neoliberal “moral liberalism” (mostly commonly known as Identity Politics) that very explicitly excludes the greatest, most widespread and most suffering causing inequality of all - Wealth Inequality - which is probably why the Far-Right is gaining massivelly from the fall of the mainstream parties than those “left” parties, since even the Far-Right lies are more appealing to the Working Class than the upper middle class well-off scion of well-off parent’s idea of “equality” that these parties defend.

                (I was actually a member of such a “fringe” “left” party for a few years and was thoroughly dissapointed)

                And yeah, I’m terrified.

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          The subway should be suitable for disabled people to use. If that makes the subway a home for the homeless, that isn’t the fault of the choice to make the subway suitable for disabled people.

          Homeless people will find some place to stay. If you make places more unpleasant until homeless people find somewhere else to stay, and then you make that place unpleasant until they move away from there, etc., then all you’re doing is spending massive amounts of money to make the entire city unpleasant and still end up with homeless people in the least unpleasant spots.

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            I agree with you almost completely. The issue is if the homeless prevents the space from being suitable for disabled people or other commuters, then this is the “less worse” option from the subway’s perspective. The subway is focused on creating a safe and clean commuter environment; it’s not within their power to solve homelessness so they have little choice but to make everything a bit worse for everyone to stop the problem they’re dealing with from making it even worse yet for everyone.

        • Nat (she/they)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          If the alternative is nothing then I guess yeah. I’d rather they get the subway as shelter until a proper solution is in place than them being condemned to die.

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          i think that the millions of vacant homes should house the homeless, but since thats seemingly impossible then sure I’d rather they keep the benches for the homeless to lay on than this

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        Definitely agreed, but the subway station is for the commuters, not for solving the housing issue. It shouldn’t be that commuters are having a less safe commute because the city, state, whatever isn’t willing to deal with the housing/homeless issue.

        I mean removing the benches is a poor solution to that anyway. Should keep the benches but just make sure the station is actually serving the commuters

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      Sorry you got downvoted for speaking the truth. I bet every one of these virtue signaling commenters also distance themselves when they come across a bum on a bench.