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    If I bought one it would end up in the pile of gaming devices I don’t use. I have an RG35XXSP for GBA, GB,and GC, a Retroid Mini for PSP, Vita, NES, SNES, PSX, DC, and arcade, a Retroid Pocket Nova for PS2, GC, and N64, an AYN Odin 2 portal for Android games, PC games/streaming, a 5800X3D/7900XTX PC for 4K OLED gaming, and a 5700X3D/9070XT for 1440P widescreen gaming. I’m nearing 660 games on my steam/epic/gog libraries and I have 2TB of rom dumps for all of the retro systems. I’ve spent thousands of dollars to realize I don’t like gaming, I liked hanging out with my friends.

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    It’s the same theme everywhere. They build for some kind of non existent luxury market while buyers stretch themselves thin. Now no one has any money left and credit cards are maxed.

    We’re not buying what’s being sold. So now what?

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      Now they blame millennials and gen z kids for ruining gaming

      And then they switch to everything being a live service so instead of buying games you just have access to the “whole library” of games (for whatever payment tier you’re in) which they will change and remove games without warning and deleting all of your progress unless you pay them at least $20 a month for cloud saves

      Oh and the only games in the games library are ai slop vibe coded games that are unplayable carbon copies of each other

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    Clearly this is because people are just tired of buying physical goods. They want digital consoles!

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      The future will be even worse. Have you seen what people have been doing with AI the last couple of weeks. People have decompiled entire games using AI and made PS5 games run on PC natively. Something that took years by multiple devs takes a few days by a single dev with a Claude account. Sony and MS are definitely shitting their pants right now. Their solution will be cloud streaming only consoles.

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        Good thing there’s already more good games out than I could play if I lived another hundred years.

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      Yeah! Everything muat be digital and if someone still wants the box it can just have a paper with a code in it.

      I mean who would like to play the single player game about 5 years later when the servers are down?

      Right?

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      You’ve clearly never seen me ignore all my biological needs to play games for 14 straight hours.

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      Yeah, indicators are indicating. Things they don’t seem to talk about. Used car lots are empty while new car lots are full. The tourist restaurants no longer have waiting lists. Gaming is a luxury expense, as in we don’t need it to survive, while new game prices are higher than they’ve ever been. I’m willing to bet most if not all luxury spending is down.

      Prices are high and companies decided shitty AI is better than good people. So jobs are getting scarcer or paying less.

      In the words of my kids: we’re cooked fam.

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    Doesn’t mention how Switches and Steam Decks are doing, but I would venture to guess that Valve is eating Sony and Microsoft’s lunch.

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      Sony and Microsoft don’t even know Valve exists. The Steam Deck sold in its lifetime less than each console in a few weeks after launch.

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        The new Xbox coming out next year is going to have direct Steam support. And that’s no accident.

        Xbox series X|S sold a total of just under 35 million. Those are actually estimate numbers, as Microslop stopped reporting their (embarrassing) numbers years ago.

        Steam has an average of 38.5 million concurrent users, with a peak of 43.5 million users.

        Steam is literally bigger than Microslop’s Xbox division, and infinitely more profitable. Sony’s PS5 has sold something like 91 million units.

        The Steam Deck isn’t the relevant metric here. Every single computer with Steam installed is.

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      Given that RAM prices are up on everything, probably not.

      People aren’t avoiding new consoles because they object to Sony’s business practices. They’re avoiding them because they’ve been priced outside of the “toy” category.

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      Gabecube is projected to sell several hundred thousand copies. PlayStation 5 is close to 100 million units sold.

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            And yet Valve’s revenue was twice that of Sony Interactive Entertainment’s. Steam can run on a generic PC; Steam Deck and GabeCube are merely gravy. Storefronts are where the money’s made. Hell, haven’t PS5s been selling at a loss until recently? What’s 13 million times a negative amount?

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              I am all for the little guy. I looked up all the stats because of what you said. PS roughly 10 million estimated by end of year, Xbox roughly 2 million by end of year. Gabecube maybe around 60k per month with a total in 2026 of around 400k units sold. That will be roughly half of Xbox sales if they performed similarly the entire year.

              Impressive start, but the PS blows them out of the water.

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        I will be curious how PS5 does moving forward and how well any PS6 does. Seems like Sony is in the FA stage and might be transitioning to FO.

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          PS5 pro prices are through the roof so it will likely keep sales muted plus everyone is ready for the new console by now. With prices the way they are the next console generation could be three years away. That is an extremely long cycle and will further hurt their sales.

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    Not just here but everywhere. Everyone (except those with too much) is holding tight to their wallet until trump dies and some stability comes back to the world.

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    Hardware costs have gone up, compelling games releases for them have gone down (and didn’t start from a good position).

    Such a mystery.

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      Not to mention they explicitly stated disc sales are dead. All my console games are physical, so I will no longer buy consoles games or consoles. Seems like the way to go.

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      I dont really feel anything for newer games. Theres been very few that ive been excited about. Graphics dont woo me in the slightest.

      I feel ill booting up any console after the 360. Even the 360 was the start of enshittification.

      “Wait, you mean this has no internet, you put the game in and it works? Wait, you own the game? Sony vs Illinois made that illegal years ago! no sign in or email? How do they track your eye movements for serving ads? How do they count your verification cans ?” -2040 kids.

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      Which I’m playing on my Steam Deck! Which starts at only…wait, 750 dollars?!?

      Edit: $790

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        Bought it when it came out 419€. I dont see myself paying twice the price today.

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            I can’t get over how great ps2 emulation is

            PS3 is decent but half the games I wanna play aren’t ready yet, the ones that are done are great though

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              About as comparable as the AYN Thor (Android phone with weird form factor) is to Steam Deck (PC with weird form factor).

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                Are you unfamiliar with the concept of portability? Or do you carry a television everywhere that you go?

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                  Laptops are portable. I think the point of the TV was that the formfactor and weight of the system aren’t a big issue when docked.

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          I think you can put SteamOS on those badboys now too, so you can say goodbye to shitty Android launchers

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          That’s true. Or depending on what I want to play, lots of even cheaper systems. Although the Steam Deck is JUST powerful enough for everything I want to play.

          Edit: Also I use the shit out of steam play streaming to TVs and things

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      The sold.oit because they’re not making them in any mind of volume because the components are either super expensive or, increasingly, simply not being manufacturered.

      The gaming industry is quickly approaching a huge cliff. The user base is almost impossible to grow at these prices, and as existing consoles/PCs die, the current crop of customers won’t be able to buy replacements.

      The bloodshed we’ve seen over the past 2-3 years in the gaming industry is nothing compared to what’s coming if hardware prices don’t come back down.

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    I’m amazed they’ve not crashed more. The PS5 and Xbox whatever the fuck they called it are both 6 years old, if you haven’t already decided to buy one why would you get one now after the price hike?