Not sure if memes are allowed here. Apologies if they aren’t.
It’s not just you, my friend.
Among many movies, I felt that way about Killers of the Flower Moon and it literally took me to fall into a random convo with the girl who cleans my office at work before I found a like-minded individual.
That movie and The Irishman were piss, but everybody insists they are masterpieces because Scorsese made them. Scorsese is just like James Cameron and Fancis Ford Coppola where they have reached an age and are so accomplished that they have lost touch with the world and are surrounded by yes men who don’t dare tell them no. And so they make very long and very shitty movies that are more for themselves than they are for anybody else. At least, Cameron is able to make his avatar slop entertaining while you’re watching it even if it is forgettable af.
Killers of the Flower Moon was particularly infuriating for me because it was so clearly just Scorsese making yet another movie about white men who are shitty, while pushing the native Americans off to the wayside as supporting casts in the movie that was supposed to be about them.
I read the book too because people kept telling me my opinion was wrong and that this was a good movie that is very faithful to the book. Well, clearly every person who claimed this, did not read the book because the book very much stays with the native Americans and their perspective and the case is treated the way it normally would when you have a conspiracy/murder mystery. You get invested in this people, you fear for them and the revelations are horrible.
Scorsese was like: how about we make the movie entirely about the bad guys and we have no reveals ever because we are told exactly what and how things happen from the start and treat the native Americans like they are ignorant, brain dead idiots who fall for the easiest trick in the book? Yeah, let’s do that. Let’s make the natives stupid and naive and have the conmen be super obviously evil and gross too, to the point that we don’t understand how any of these native Americans could have ever called them friend or family. Let’s race swap the only nice white man in the movie too. He was native American in real life, but for whatever reason they made him white in the movie. I still don’t know why they did that. I thought this was supposed to be authentic to real life. We do not race swap historical figures. I thought we all agreed that it was dumb when they made Anne Boleyn black. It’s also dumb when we make a native American man white in a movie about how white men committed systematic murders on native Americans to get their money.
Oh, let’s also make the movie 4 hours long and throw a temper tantrum when cinemas around the world implement intermissions so that movie goers have a chance to pee and get refreshments. No no, this slop is ART and Scorsese-manchild wants you to sit through all 4 hours of his slop because it’s his movie.
Piss movie. I hated it so much and nobody agreed with me until I spoke to my cleaning lady who completely understood where I was coming from.
The book is so much better. Such a well crafted blueprint for a suspenseful movie or TV show about a horrific chapter in native American history and how oil money attracts all the predators and vultures in the world to eat you and your family until nothing is left. Not even bone fragments.
But no. Scorsese cannot make movies from any other perspective than that of white men with corrupt souls so, sorry, native Americans. You gotta be supporting casts in your own friggin story.
Amazing. Piss movie. It riles me up everytime I think about it and it riles me up even more how much undeserved praise it recieved. Piss. Movie.
Scorsese thinks if you fire editors and shit out 3 hours of film it’s an epic.
We compare the slop of the present to the masterpieces of the past because we don’t remember the slop of the past.
Survivorship bias but with movies
Fair point but the slop of the present is pretty damn shitty
Any you’ll forget about it in about two or three years.
While our brains rot
Isn’t that what they said Movies would do to you in the 30s?
Have you saw how stupid people are lately?
What, you think that’s a new thing? You think people weren’t dumb fucks in the 1930s? The 1830s? The 1730s? Human life is temporary, mass idiocy is eternal.
The Brutalist. Sorry, I just didn’t get it.
This is me with most Tarantino films. I watched Pulp Fiction and have no idea what actually happened in that movie.
I find many of his movies enjoyable, but they definitely is a required taste. The last Tarantino movie I saw was the hateful 8 and I hated that movie so much, so I get where you’re coming from. Haven’t watched his movie about Hollywood because I cannot bring myself to care about Hollywood people making movies about life in Hollywood. The only Hollywood director who could get away with that was David Lynch, but he also had so much more to say and his Hollywood-focused films were so much deeper than the typical navel gazing bullshit in that specific niche genre. Under the Silver Lake is a movie I wish I could unsee. Ironically another film that people seem to love, but where I’m just over here like: okay Hollywood, don’t gas yourself to death with all that farthuffing.
That sounds like a you problem. It’s really not hard to follow.
Tarantino films are dense with dialogue and cultural references, but the plot and characters are usually very simple.
Feet and the n-word
Really? I understand not liking it, taste is personal and his movies are quirky to say the least… but not understanding the plot? were you on your phone all movie (my wife does this and then complains she got lost). I ask because the plot of pulp fiction could be written in half a page, the only thing complex about it is that it is shown async
In my experience, when people are on their phone throughout the movie, it’s usually a sign that they find the movie incredibly boring. Some people simply don’t like watching 2 hours of people talking.
I CAME FOR ASPLOSIONS.
I disagree… I have seen so many people, my wife included, not letting the phone down for a good 15-20 minutes after the movie starts, by then, they are already lost so the movie never had a chance
If you find a movie boring, stop it… why ruin it for yourself and all around you by being on the phone throughout the duration of the movie?
Nothing much, really, at the end of the day.
Guy gets a watch.
This was Everything Everywhere All At Once for me. Normally I’m pretty easy to please but this one fell completely flat
I liked the movie, but people sold it as this incredibly weird and awesome masterpiece. I think my expectations were just way too high.
To be fair, part of the premise of that movie is to immerse yourself in absurd ideas in parallel universes… for reasons. So it’s not surprising that it gets confusing.
See, I didn’t hate it because it was confusing, I hated it because it felt boring and cringy. Once you get over the initial genre hopping whiplash, it’s just more generic action tropes and multiverse nonsense that had already been done to death by the time that movie came out. At the insistence of the people I was watching with, I admittedly didn’t make it past the expository bagel scene, but once I got the pulse that it was a slice-of-life drama and John Wick thrown in a blender with Rick and Morty, I didn’t mind turning it off, and I usually hate not finishing movies.
I kind of agree that’s what I never really got about it. It’s not mind bending. It’s a classic example of movie snobs having never considered that sci-fi could be art and getting confused when the movie asks the audience to make the slightest leap in imagination.
The thing I did like about it a lot is that it’s a very rare movie, especially an action flick, in which the main character is a 40+ year old woman who actually gets a character arc. That was cool.
The ending is fairly relevant to the quality of the movie
Noted. I’ll give the rest of it a shot sometime.
Our breakfast television has a movie critic straight out of the feuilleton. Any movie that people actually go to is automatically bad, and there is not enough praise for art house films that makes people fall asleep in the cinema and never even make it to TV or streaming.
Sounds like the time Ebert of Siskel & Ebert gave Twister a thumbs down because “it had no plot.”
But were they wrong?
sounds like a good critic.
I watched “Hugo” because it was so critically acclaimed. It had all the awards. Critics loved it…
Most boring, pretentious, film-school self-masturbatory slog I’ve ever watched.
The plot was either boring or incoherent. There a boy in a train station? And now there’s a steampunk robot who… draws movies or something? And some old dude in a shitty apartment has a bunch of obscure history films? What tf are we doing? And the robot is magic now?
The only reason it got high marks is so every critic to wax themselves about how bigbrain cultured they are. The totally got all the niche nods/ode/references and it totally justified their bullshit college degrees…
You watched a children’s adventure comedy movie and surprised it’s a but nonsensical? Unless the critics sold it as something it’s not, I think this one is in you 😄
right? like… it’s a kids movie. it’s not a biopic or art film. the hell is OP going on about?
I saw bits when a flatmate watched it and it was not being treated like a movie aimed at children. Looked dull as dishwater.
This was me with “One Battle after another”, it was not incomprehensible rather the opposite, it was very simple. Don’t get me wrong I don’t think the movie is bad or anything but for such hype created I was expecting it to be a bit more revolutionary. It also doesn’t help that you need to watch DeCaprio shouting Viva la revolución
I really like Bugonia, Code 3 and Roofman from the recent movies I watched. Bugonia is a little confusing but it’s still easy to get it’s message. The other two are quite simple but the opposite of boring.
How was Bugonia confusing in any way?
Paul Thomas Anderson has dug a hole for himself. He really can’t do better than his previous work so he necessarily has to do worse. Licorice Pizza was also not great. I haven’t seen One Battle yet but the vibe around it and trailers made me realize it’s probably a mess or at least marketed poorly.
For me it’s Gravity (the one with Sandra Bullock crying in space) and the last two Nolan Batman films. I just don’t understand why people like them so much.
because it’s porn/fan service.
Gravity was a 2 hour ‘omg going to die in space’ porno.
I’m here with the nolan movies, but i thought the first one was the weakest of them. And by weak i mean it was pretty ass.
Are you including the dark knight there? I though that was the best of the three.
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A few of my friends recommended Eraserhead. It felt like David Lynch was seeing what he could get away with.
I absolutely love David Lynch, but Eraserhead is not the first, second nor third Lynch movie I would put on at any given time. I love the radiator girl segment in the film. The rest is forgettable.
I’m more of a Mulholland Drive fangirl. It is one of the best movies ever made in my humble opinion.
Someone also mentioned Elephant Man which is likewise a stellar movie.
Eraserhead isn’t a movie to be enjoyed, it’s a movie to be regretted, for the rest of your life….
fun fact: that’s a real horse embryoAnother fun fact: it was based on Lynch’s feelings of becoming a father to a baby with deformed feet. His daughter’s feet are ok now, they have a good relationship and she became a film director too!
That’s just David Lynch, no?
You’d think so, but then he makes The Elephant Man and The Straight Story. Both pretty grounded and simple to follow scripts with not too much Lynchness to them. I honestly don’t know what to make of Lynch… he was a man of contrast.
I saw someone suggest The Elephant Man as the best way to introduce someone to Lynch, and after watching it, I totally get it. Amazing film.
Unfortunately, it’s next to impossible to find these days and I was only able to watch it after finding a torrent.
These are my two favorite films of his. I’m not much of a Lynch fan though, so I think it tells.
KPop Demon Hunters came out this year.
It sounds like a cheesy kids’ movie. It even kinda looks like one. Or, at least, before it got super popular when everybody realised “hey, this movie is actually really good” and started playing the soundtrack nonstop between viewings. And not just little kids, middle-aged people like it, too. I’ve been watching and loving movies for about 40 years, and I remember seeing Mortal Kombat (1995) in theaters, and being just floored by that opening. Cheesy yes, but techno music with sound bytes from the game (the Super NES/Genesis game!) while flames roasted the dragon logo? Movie intros usually aren’t that cool. Movies aren’t meant to be a thrill ride. They play the long con. KPop Demon Hunters was the first one in a long time (I guess 30 years) that gave me the same feeling. I felt it when the first song hit. Then the scenes with the light flashing in the plane windows. I knew I was in for one hell of a ride. I’ve seen it four or five times now, and it doesn’t get old. It may not be good like a Scorcese or Tarantino movie, but it’s fun, and that’s good. It’s more fun than all the recent-ish Star Wars movies. I remember when those were fun. Someone lost the memo.
Movies don’t have to be good if they’re fun. A lot of people liked Minecraft, Five Nights at Freddy’s, The Emoji Movie… I haven’t seen any of them. But KPop Demon Hunters looked pretty stupid, too, until I gave it a chance. If a movie makes you forget about the bad shit in the world for a couple hours, it’s done its job. Let’s stop asking much more than that from movies. Sure, I have a niche I absolutely love (smart/weird flicks like I Origins, Predestination, Donnie Darko… even if they’re pseudo-intellectual, if I can dig into it, I love that shit) but a fun dumb movie is cool in my books.
Well shit. I might just have to watch Kpop hunters. I kept seeing it but I didn’t care enough to look into it.
I know the exact feeling with watching Mortal Kombat because I watched it in the theaters and thought it was great.
“Your soul is mine.”. Cutt to techno music 🎵🎶🎵🎵🎶
If a movie makes you forget about the bad shit in the world for a couple hours, it’s done its job. Let’s stop asking much more than that from movies.
Never underestimate entertainment value. All art is also always part entertainment. Never forget that.
Choose your might
See, I find, that “critically acclaimed” and “popular” usually don’t go well together. However, something with just critical acclaim from people I like (and sometimes a Criterion release) tends to be some of the most amazing things I’ve ever witnessed.
But to the meme’s point, Tarkovsky’s Solaris was boring, and hard to understand for me, so much so I didn’t ever finish it. I’ll have to try again maybe from a different perspective.
You are supposed to be bored. His films are contemplative. They are also very Russian.
Stalker is even better/worse.
Read the book. Seriously, Lem’s depictions of all things alien are orders of magnitude better than any movie - even modern CGI - can be. (I watched the Tarkovsky movie after reading the book and wasn’t impressed either)
I actually enjoyed Solaris a ton for its pacing. It’s controversial understandably, but it felt like the story was moving at a real world pace, rather than the modern approach of one moment of action to the next.
It’s a slow burn, for sure and I wouldn’t say it’s for everyone.
I’ll try to be generous to your meme but it’s hard. I’ll say I used to be like that, part of the majority who thought going to a movie meant it needed to have action, a superhero, or magic. It gets tiring and repetitive though.
A recent example was train dreams. Me 10 years ago would have called it a snore fest. Now? I have much more respect for movies and it ripped me up inside. So this meme is very subjective on the individual
Train Dreams was awesome
Same. If I see people complaining about a movie being slow and boring 9/10 times I’ll love it
I liked that sci-fi movie where they poked a rocket at the moon. After that it all went downhill.
Seriously, your meme is too broad. Always happy to complain about something specific though.
Fun fact: there’s a recently-ish restored copy of ‘Le voyage dans la lune’ that was hand-colored way back in the day. And the band Air made a soundtrack for it. It was on YouTube, but apparently gotten copyright-struck by someone, and the viewer is advised to be wary of the multitude of AI colorations when looking for a new upload.
This is usually where le pirate is more reliable. Thanks for the tip.
You’re right, the warm ports have the blu-ray with not only the colored and soundtracked version, but also a b&w version with an English narration written by Melies, and another with actors voicing the characters as performed in the US in 1903.
See it’s because most movie critics are bitter old white men, and I’m not
