• GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world
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    This is going to sound like a callous comparison. But I think that an elf would think of it in the same way that we think about our most beloved pet.

    Your cat will die. You know that, right? Your lifespan exceeds your cat’s by a factor of 5. What’s the point of loving a cat if you’re just going to mourn them for decades after they die?

    The point of love is that it has no point. It’s our most basic instinct, our deepest need. Everyone needs to feel love. And death doesn’t stop us from loving those who matter to us.

    Apply the same idea to falling in love with someone who has a terminal illness. You will outlive that person. That is a guarantee. But love has no time limit. And the time you spend with that person will be something you hold close to you for the rest of your life, the same way that they’ll hold it for the rest of theirs.

    Let elves fall in love. The world is lonely enough as it is.

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      Not wrong, at the same time, my wife and I were incapable of recovering from out first dog’s death and we have not had a new pet since, so, as a general rule, you might be correct, but individually you can still find “elves that would have a problem with it”.

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      Pretty sure there is a sizeable demographic of people who fantasize about falling in love with an elf precisely because their relationship would be like that of a pet and owner

      EDIT why did I have to go and type that out. Cannot stop thinking about 1000 year old condescending dommy mommy elf GF now. fml

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      under OPs logic, What’s the point to let your children get attached to your parents?

      yhea, love if special regardless if it’s short due to death

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    spend the day planning a meal, go shopping, spend hours cooking, tomorrow that food will be shite flushed down the toilet. why even bother

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    elf wife suffers and mourns you for hundreds of years alone

    Even still, you don’t get to choose for her whether or not she’s allowed to love someone she knows she will have to say goodbye to eventually. For all you know those sixty years she spent with you might be a precious memory that makes that long life worth living.

    I love my wife more than anything. Even if I knew I was going to outlive her by centuries I would still choose her Every. Single. Time. The memories I’ve made with her are that precious. I don’t think I even have words for how upset I’d be at someone trying to say that we shouldn’t be together because I’m going to massively outlive her.

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        Eh, if they weren’t at least some part of it the person in the screenshot wouldn’t be citing Elf Waifu’s suffering when you die as a reason to not want the Elf Waifu.

        Just because considering it’s 4Chan the original reason for wanting the Elf Waifu was probably “I could have a Legal Loli Waifu,” doesn’t mean they can’t be taught to not be psycho incels.

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          the original reason for wanting the Elf Waifu was probably “I could have a Legal Loli Waifu,”

          The original reason was obviously some game/anime that had a pretty elf girl with big tits.

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            Maybe, either way picking that particular reason for Anon to want an Elf Waifu was mostly shitposting. The comment I was responding to was kinda going the route of “4Chan evil” so it was kinda meant to be like “Yeah and? I can still try to make sure they get that the people they love are whole people with agency if I frame it the right way goddamnit.”

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    “Alone.” Pfft. Do you think she was alone for the first 200 years of her life too?

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    Shut up, Elrond. Where was this certainty when all you had to do was kick Isildur into the pit to save the entire fucking world?

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      There’s absolutely no way that could have happened. While Sauron was defeated on the slopes of Orodruin, the movie scene where Isildur and Elrond climb to the ledge of the fires isn’t in the books.

      Elrond recounts what happened that day to Boromir, much later:

      Isildur took it, as should not have been. It should have been cast then into Orodruin’s fire nigh at hand where it was made. But few marked what Isildur did. He alone stood by his father in that last mortal contest; and by Gil-galad only Círdan stood, and I. But Isildur would not listen to our counsel.

      ‘“This I will have as weregild for my father, and my brother,” he said; and therefore whether we would or no, he took it to treasure it. But soon he was betrayed by it to his death; and so it is named in the North Isildur’s Bane. Yet death maybe was better than what else might have befallen him.

      There’s no way Elrond could have picked up a grieving Isildur who is holding his dead father, carried him kicking and screaming, and yeeted him off the precipice.

      Imagine, in the hour of such a pyrrhic victory, with Gil’galad and Elendil bodies still warm after their sacrifice, trying to murder the new High King of the Dúnedain and, technically, the ruler of both Arnor and Gondor over having claimed a ring? That’s a whole new war right there between what human and elven armies were still standing…

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      It wasn’t in his nature to cut corners.

      We only saw half the story, the regret. He had motives for not doing it, we just didn’t see them because we didn’t need to.

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        I don’t see it seeded in the Tolkien’s world for times after LotR, but having no great evil to cooperate against would put a lot of alliances to the test before they’d learn how to live in peace. This may take a lot of pages if not tomes.

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    Mass Effect Asari: “I’ll miss you and I will always be a mother to your children but I’m going to remarry inside five years.”

    Mass Effect Humans: “Deal.”

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      I mean Asari children are pretty much just clones of the mother with some personality traits from the other partner thrown in.

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    Anon’s making it sound like this isn’t something that’s been touched on many times before in fantasy. They even used an image of Marcille, a character traumatized by the loss of her human father and living in fear of the knowledge that she will lose everyone else around her too.

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    I love how everyone is assuming that anon is saying that’s why not to have an elven waifu. So wholesome.

    Being a 4chan post, there’s a pretty big chance that this is someone explaining why they get off to elven waifus.

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      This post is about Marcille’s motivation in Dungeon Meshi. Like this is literally her reason for going into the dungeon, she wants to learn how to unify the races’ lifespans so that she won’t be forced to outlive the people she loves

      Dunmeshi spoilers

      This is exacerbated by the fact that >!she’s a half-elf, so her lifespan is like half that of an elf, but still more than twice that of any other human race. She’ll either outlive her loved ones by hundreds of years, or be outlived by them by hundreds of years.!<

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      Alternatively, it’s 4Chan so the odds the OP this post was responding to was asking “Why wouldn’t you want a Hot Elven Waifu?” are also pretty high specifically because of the “I could have a Legal Loli Waifu” angle.

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    This makes no sense to me.

    It makes sense only to people who believe in delusional “forever after” and in the idea that once you loved( or been with someone) that’s it ! That person is not allowed and can never love or be with someone else.

    What a pile of reduced monkeigh logic.

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      Even if you believe that, the idea that losing you would be such torture as to outweigh any good of being with you is utter bullshit. And even if you think it would, you don’t get to make that choice for someone else!

      My wife recently got diagnosed with a small tumor on her pituitary gland. Her health already wasn’t the best, and she’s a week shy of exactly 5 years older than me. So I already knew I was most likely going to outlive her. But even if you told me I was going to outlive her by literally hundreds of years you would never catch me choosing not to be with her for however long I get. I’d choose to be with this woman every single time.

      If she died tomorrow it would destroy me. But it’s precisely because it will hurt me so much that I’m going to cherish every single moment I have with her for as long as I have her. And when the time does come to say goodbye I’m going to live on carrying those memories with me for however much longer I have before I join her wherever it is we go when this is all over. Because I know that she would want me to be happy in the time I have without her.

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        Sorry to hear this and I empathise with your situation. ‘Loss’ is a difficult emotion

        I completely agree with “we don’t get to make that choice for someone else”. This shall always be true.

        But if someone implies : that loving someone is just a one-time thing in life, like in a one-time use then… this is their choice

        But i’m not bound to this… and in fact i view this as very, very, limited point of view and existence. It’s just a social construct that some people pick it up to give meaning to their existence.

        Fine … ‘you do you’ …

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          Oh yeah I’m not saying it is one time use. I’m saying even if you grant the premise that it is one time use that the idea that you shouldn’t be with someone who is going to outlive you or that you’re going to outlive yourself is plain stupid.

          I might not end up finding anyone else and remarrying if my wife passes away before me. Not because I’m not going to try or because I believe I can’t love anyone else. I’m just an asexual introvert and would most likely just be focused on being happy single then if I happen to meet someone I vibe with then I’d be open to seeing where it goes.

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    “The more you hurt at the parting… the more it proves the depth of your love. And if you always fear sorrow… you’ll never be able to love at all.” — Belldandy, a literal goddess who’ll live longer than any knife-eared tree hugger.

    Also tell your whyfoo and her folks that I’ll keep cutting trees, goblinite does not drop charcoal and I need it for steel. If they keep whining I’m going to open the circus and unleash the clowns on them, not even Frieren and Fern would be able to get rid of all of them. I am not joking, I’m going to open the circus! And butcher some mermaids for the bones.

    Now shoo. I’m not listening to them babbling about a ring to be destroyed, or how they’re taking Chilchuck to Isengard-gard-gagagagard-gard or whatever. Nor should you. Touch grass, even if you’re isekai’d.

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    “That’s fucking why” - why what? I don’t get it. What “why” question is anon answering?

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      Presumably answering a question about why that particular elf does the things she does in Dungeon Meshi, since unifying the race’s lifespans is her goal

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      This is why he’s not getting the elf girls.

      He made some mental gymnastics to justify why this won’t happen in reality.

      Something something … incel culture …

      I’m laughing at the idea that this person believes (or wants to believe ) that :

      after he will be with the elf girl then, after he will die, the elf girl need to mourn after him for hundreds of years …

      Like some kind of delusion that he is sooo good, and no other man can raise to this level, that will justify the hundreds years mourning.

      Narcissistic fuck!