Waking up every day and drinking that Hatorade.
If you don’t like anything on the the platform, why stick around?

People are much more likely to write a complaint letter than a praising one. Same as it ever was but internet version.
I worked for a company that had a post karma system before reddit ever existed. It was no different then. No matter how much we said that the downvote button is not a dislike button, it changed nothing.

Go ahead, bitch about it, I like it
True neutral. Who’s gonna fight such a nice balance?
Sticking my neck out a bit to share my general views and habits on voting to maybe add some other things to consider.
My general mindset is that each community sets rules on posts and comments, and that ideally only appropriate things should then be posted. So I typically only think to upvote stuff when there’s an even greater than normal amount of effort or thought put into something, or to counteract dogpile downvotes to an appropriate post/comment.
Say I’m browsing a motorcycle community and one user posts a meme about bikes, and someone else poses a story about learning to ride; if my preference is for text posts instead of images I could just upvote the story post and not the meme, but both posts are related to the community and belong there. I could upvote both (and by extension all posts) but then what’s the difference if everything is +1 or +0? If memes are disallowed, I can downvote and report the post to push it down to hopefully keep others from having to see it or encourage them to post their own.
I will also downvote nearly 100% of extremely low-effort pointless comments like “THIS”, “lol”, URL shortened or amp/tracking including links without context etc. A post in another language but marked as English I will also downvote, foreign language communities/instances I just block. I block most meme and shitpost style communities so I’m not looking to vote police what other people enjoy, but doing this stuff in science/news/hobby/etc. communities is inappropriate.
So that’s generally how I behave on Lemmy (and previously on Reddit) - I’m generally more “on the lookout” for bad content, and not looking to boost things that belong here. I don’t rely on voting to maintain my feed, my block lists are also enormous.
A more semi-recent phenomenon is accounts spam posting a bunch of (relevant) links and then self-deleting - I can’t block that account to hide their posts, but as I’m scrolling through my feed I will downvote every single post they made regardless of its quality etc. I’m not going to rehash arguments about whether their behavior is acceptable or not (“they are posting relevant stuff, who cares if they’re acting in bad faith!”) but since there’s generally 2-3 of those accounts per day spam posting junk that’s a lot of downvotes from me to a lot of different communities including some I’m not subscribed to. I’m not going to bother reporting every single post, and until there’s a method to easily directly report a user I’m not going to bother trying that anymore.
Just wanted to put that out there that there might be other legitimate users that have wildly disproportionate voting numbers and that it might not be malicious or careless in nature. I don’t know if Lemmy ignores them like Reddit (supposedly?) does, but I’ve never mass voted from a user’s history. It’s only from comments and posts that were presented to me during my normal browsing.
This is the upvotes/downvotes they did on other people’s stuff, or others did on their stuff?
That the account did on other people’s content.
Wow…. They’re miserable.
On other people’s stuff
You’re reading a lot into a reaction.
Guess I’m doing okay!

i downvote any ai slop that crosses my feed
So brave.
My upvote to downvote is 10:1 for both posts and comments. Cool tool!

What is that… a 10:1 ratio for the comments and nearly 15:1 for the posts? (I suck at math)


oh well, it seems i vote a ton in comparison
f____g@lemmy.zip?
I have no idea who that is - your alt?
Downvoting is valid. You saying it equals hate says more about you than about the downvoters.
edit: hm, apparently this is about the user doing the downvoting, not being downvoted? Still, this is badly anonymized, and that’s my main point.
I have no idea who that is
I know exactly who this is, even without the username tip-off. Here’s what their record looked like in September:

I happened across the user when looking into a string of -1’s on brand new posts in a small community. They were all the same person, and that person downvoted 244 times for each upvote.
This on its own is not normal behavior. Combine it with this user’s comments - which are pretty much completely on brand for the average Lemmy user - and it becomes even more bizarre.
My instance of choice decided to unilaterally and without any warning whatsoever disable downvotes. Just to “try it out”.
I’m still pissed about it to this day.
I mean that google removes any kind of downvotes is one stupid thing, but that people think this makes content “better” is crazy to me.
Now I do understand that in small communities the weight of a super negative account can be quite an issue… But is removing completely any negative feedback the solution ? Really, it’s all we got ?
Also the simple fact that a lot of this community is from Reddit, IMO it’s not okay to disable a feature like that without even voting on it.
So if you think disabling negative feedback fixes an issue, you have the burden to prove or at least explain the reasoning.
I do think it didn’t make YouTube any less of a cesspool to disable downvotes on it…
Edit : Also while votes are not supposed to replace moderation, they certainly help limiting the reach of spammers. Like if the mods are asleep at least the community can bury the post in the meantime. But no, they just disabled downvotes and made a post about the change the same day. Wtf.
Change instance. Loads to choose from.
Yeah thats what I was going to say too. There’s little keeping you on any specific instance. You don’t have “karma totals” like on reddit.
Nothing against downvoting in general, but some people are extremely toxic about it. I don’t get the point.
Please don’t do a witch hunt - it was censored for a reason. Sorry I didn’t do it thoroughly enough.
Please don’t do a witch hunt - it was censored for a reason. Sorry I didn’t do it thoroughly enough.
I’m not. But if this post should evolve into one, that’s on you. Do the sensible thing and remove it.
i concur (approved your p.of.view)
I like Lemmy(*)s, and like to ↑ good stuff and to ↓ at very bad stuff. Yes, of course, there is so much of both in here. And since we have many communities, it is possible for opposite points of view to float upward. Until we have a better system, let’s use what we have.
Personally I factor this in with bans on my communities. I very rarely ban, but I do if I notice people like this, who I dub “downvote trolls”. They don’t participate (or when they do it’s negatively), the just downvote constantly.
Now I’m fine with downvotes, I downvote, I think it’s healthy to say “I don’t like this content”. However if all you do is downvote (especially in a specific community) then I view a ban as a win win. We don’t have to deal with your negativity and obviously you don’t enjoy being here anyway from your voting patterns, so everyone wins.
For my communities I have a pretty healthy ratio. If you downvote 80% of the content, you’re on my radar. I won’t ban you on that data alone, but seriously 4 out of 5 votes on the community are on average down then why are you there?
Personally, I agree (we would never do this in a large community for the record). But yes, there are people who think that they can “kill” a small community with downvotes because they don’t like the topic.
The sad thing is, it’s true. In a community where most posts have under 5 or so votes, one person coming in and systematically downvoting every post will keep people from seeing it who may be interested. If someone doesn’t like a topic, they can block the community, but when they take steps to prevent others from seeing it, that’s toxic. It’s bad for the health of the platform.
Content from all communities shows up on my feed, like most others’. Confused mods, possibly like you, seem to get angry when the see people regularly downvote content that they seem to be low-quality, even when those people are doing so without regard of the specific community.
If you don’t want to deal with downvotes in a community, you might be better off moving it to an instance that does not support downvotes.
This isn’t about drive-bys. This is about users who engage in bad faith. Take a look at OP’s pic again.
4650 downvotes.
19 upvotes.
That’s not happenstance.
Sure, but I felt that OC’s comment brushed up against a common issue of mods conflating the two.
A bit of selfresponsibility would help both sides tho - if you browse /all, you get /all, so instead of downvoting stuff you are not subscribed to and where you might be missing the context of the community, it would be best for you and the others to just filter the community instead of downvoting every single time.
I ignore stuff that’s simply irrelevant to me; I downvote slop and actual garbage in an attempt to help make everything better for everyone.
Oh wow, i upvote a lot


Same for me, I must love everything I see.
You ratio upvote-downvote is impressive

Considering how prolific a poster you are I expected higher numbers in every category? Or maybe this username is a new one?

… did I hallucinate you with a christmas-themed burner account, too?
Ok that tracks lol
That’s a great username















