I’ve been using Linux mint for over a year now. The only problems I’ve ever needed Windows for is
a) playing obscure Japanese games
b) translating said Japanese games
It’s more work than the people saying that give thought to. I’m in the process of switching but finding replacements for the apps I rely on is no easy task.
complains about a thing
Gets a solution suggested that solves issues
Complains about having to hear solution
Okay then, stick with your bullshit Microshit problems
I want to make the swtich, and I have been looking into it, seems pretty simple.
But then I read the comment section in any post on linux, and they talk about kernals and other super techinal stuff.
Any day now tho, ill take the plunge
I did it last year, and I’ve been very happy with the results.
I’m reasonably tech-savvy for a user. I can follow instructions, but I don’t understand the super technical stuff. I watched a few YouTube videos and read a few tutorials, and it was all pretty easy.
The system updates are easier than Windows. I don’t have to understand what a kernel is; I just have to click the update button.
I’ve written a microkernel for an embedded device before and enjoy that kind of thing. I haven’t had to use any of my kernel experience in the year or so I’ve been on linux.
My linux install (Fedora) took a while because I was reading up on a bunch of the options instead of just taking the defaults. Ended up mostly just using the defaults and the ones I did change, I kinda regret because the snapshots that I wanted to save disk space by avoiding would probably come in handy if I break something and don’t know how to fix it.
Meh, that’s tech details that you won’t have to deal with at all
I’ve used Linux on desktop for decades now (started way back at 2002) and the lady time o touched the kernel for normal desktop stuff is literally multiple decades ago
Windows too has a kernel but nobody talks about it because you can’t really do shit with it unless you’re a developer
With Linux you can do whatever the fuck you want and it’s all relatively easy. I can access and modify the Linux kernel in 10 seconds flat if I want to. THAT is why people talk a lot about the Linux kernel, because it’s so easy and powerful to use. Microsoft Windows kernels aren’t even worth talking about.
But as a common user, you don’t HAVE to do stuff with the kernel if you don’t want to. My 70 year old mother doesn’t either and she’s fine using the Linux desktop that I installed for her.
For high intensity gaming you might have to make small modifications here and there in human readable text files, and usually documentation about it is excellent.
Most of Linux is so fucking easy to setup that last time I installed both Linux and Windows, the Linux (Kubuntu) cost 30 minutes to install and that includes the time to download the ISO and burn it on a USB and includes drivers for printers and GPU which were all setup and installed out of the box.
The windows 11 install cost me 7 hours divided over 5 days.
Amongst all the problems I ran into, I had to make BIOS modifications because it refused to install at all, it fucked up badly because I had the gall to burn a standard ISO with a standard ISO burning tool on Linux, completely forgetting that Microsoft always sabotages their software so that it won’t work well with Linux. I had to install windows on a virtual machine install some special fucking Windows ISO burner tool, burn the USB there, then it worked. That cost me hours over multiple days of searching the Internet on why the frack such a basic thing failed, plus the time required to set all that shit up just to be able to START the installation.
Then during the installation I got so many questions, so many questions… So many… Please sign up here, please pay more money, please rent our services, please please fracking please! The install itself took a bloody hour to finish
What I’m trying to say is: Linux is friggin easy. Windows is hell. Windows costs money, spies on you, serves you unwanted ads and your computer is no longer yours.
Why does anyone even use windows to begin with? I don’t get it.
I run stock Pop OS and I’ve only recently wanted to give a shit about macros.
You should only care if you’re running a specific software. By and large its AS SEEMLESS as using Windows.
Note that its not really BETTER its mostly just DIFFERENT.
Ignore it’s just either passion or online flexing. You can use any of the main well supported distros in full chill mode. Power on use shut down.
Linux Mint with Cinnamon is the easy one with good, widespread adoption. Been good for me.
The only difficult part as a newcommer are the installation process, partitioning and choosing between different things you pretty much know shit about.
Anything debian or debian based is a good start KDE plasma for that windows feel Learn how your particular package manager works and thats it.
Unless you have some compatibility issue, it’s pretty much straight forward.
Gaming has its things, but it is super doable. I have been a debian usdr for 14 years, but kept a winfows partition for gaming. 2 months ago switched to arch for gaming. So far, i have played +10 games with no issues, steam pretty much just works and lutris (think of it as a foss game launcher) needed some tweaks, but is pretty good.
If you have doubts, you can always try it on a virtual machine, meaning, you dont risk anything.
Well, i made the final switch to linux myself last year and i’m pretty happy all things considered. But while a lot of things improved over the last 10 years some deal breakers are still around. In my case: just this week an update broke my desktop enviroment entirely for the SECOND time since august. I couldnt even log in. Yeah, i had automatic back ups and the issue was solved in 5 minutes.
But thats not my point. Every single linux install i had going since 2012 fucking died on it itself at some point because of an update. On three different thinkpads, three different tower PCs, running like 6 or 7 different distros. On some of these thinkpads i literally only used the browser to watch youtube and shitpost for months. Nothing else. Didnt touch the console once and never ran some random c&p command i didnt understand. Didnt install anything else. Also i used normie distros like ubuntu and the like. Still every single time at some point an update killed the entire GUI/OS. In the past i just switched back to Windows.
Now Windows is so bad that i learned to deal with this shit. Maybe i’m unlucky. Maybe i’m stupid. But this is just a constant for me in the linux experience. IDK how i could recommend Linux to my normie friends/family. I let massgrave run for them for LTSC or extended support stuff. Done, and i will probably never hear a thing about that OS/PC again. Linux? Nah, i’m good. I dont have the time to do first level support for them if something breaks.
/Also atm i just have the time to geek out and invest time in my OS. Just 3 years ago that would have been a no-go. Things i use for leisure just needed to work in my very limited spare time. Back then i’d rather have taken a nap than to deal with tech issues.
Are you using an older NVIDIA card by any chance? I only had my desktop break when using a GTX-1060.
Nah, RDNA2.
I’m on Fedora and have upgraded versions since 39. havent had a problem yet. currently on the latest 43.
Sweet. Your experience is valid as mine!
I’ve had Linux Mint running on my ThinkPad T430 for a while now and haven’t encountered a single issue. Some distros have awful quality control with their updates (ubuntu) which can cause the issues you’ve encountered. Going with a stable distro is key for a good experience.
I’m happy to hear its working out for you without any issues. Your experience is valid as mine. But you stating that a normie distro like ubuntu has quality issues proofs my point. :D
Which distro did you use? Manajro by any chance?
I dont think so. Maybe once? I dont remember all the distros i tried over the years. As i said it even happened with ubuntu on a thinkpad where i made it a point to do no funky shit at all.
Currently i’m running CachyOS and do lots of funky shit. Fair game. But only because i know i just can roll back if something breaks.
“Man, I’ve had a headache for a long as I can remember.”
“Here, try some aspirin. At least give it a shot.”
“No thanks, I need the headache. It lets me play Fortnite.”
I dare you to prescribe Linux to someone suffering from a headache
Damn dude, that headache is bright to you by your continued use of Windows. That doesn’t happen in Linux.
As long as you recommend a basic distro it’s fine, most people will never notice the problems of Linux.
Ubuntu rightfully gets a lot of hate but it’s pretty easy for noobs to use.
Then you open the bottle and find it’s filled with different types of pills of various sizes, colors, and markings.
“Umm… So which one of these do I take?”
And then you get 20 different answers.
And that is correct. Headaches are different. Some people are helped by aspirin. Aspirin comes in different forms, as pill, powder, stick, in different doses. Other people maybe need Ibuprofen or Paracetamol or even harder pain medications. Those also come in different forms and doses. So every of those 20 answers is correct and you need to find out what works for you.
The world is complex and you need to find out what works for you. The idea that one OS or one distro is perfect for everyone on this planet is wrong just as the idea that one medication in one specific dose can be perfect for a complex illness like headaches for every of those 8.5 billion people on this planet. You have to be willing to find what works for you - or just keep suffering from headaches.
It’s almost like people have several unique sets of needs for an operating system and the community works to fill those voids as best as possible with no expectation of financial gain and so things aren’t as polished because of it.
But the company with near unlimited budget can’t figure out how to keep their OS from deleting people’s files and crashing.
More like installing a subcutaneous implant
“It’s easy, man. You just need to inject this needle under your skin. What do you mean you’re uncomfortable doing that? Anybody can do it. And if you don’t like it, you can just use the same needle to pull the pill back out and you’ll be back where you started, no harm done. Now, there’s about 48 different pills you can choose from that vary in performance and legitimacy. I use Grafff (yes, with 3 Fs, two Fs is the legacy version), but you could start with NBOSC or RBOSC or LBOSC. But you could also try Flan or Yellow Welly. You could try Trim, but it takes some getting used to not having eyes. Honestly, its not that bad though. Anyway, once you have QBOSC (I mentioned QBOSC, right? It meant replace RBOSC but they split and are just two different things now) you’ll need to find this thing called DaemonFlare to make your legs work so you can play games and stuff. The whole thing should take like 20 minutes… or 9 days to work out the issues”
This is funny. You’re getting heavily downvoted because it’s criticizing Linux. I don’t actually agree with the sentiment. Though I get how people might have that perception. Still, this is funny.
But what part is inaccurate? Its easy if you know how to do it and daunting if you don’t.
“Can anyone recommend a good distr-”
Man if they figure out stable alternatives to Premiere Pro and Ableton I’m on board, but for now all of that is not easy to do and the setup can be extremely janky.
Ofc I’m talking actually usable, not “it runs”.
been pointing people to this Windows as an augment for just one or two programs:
Except they’re the same person. The people who complain most about Microsoft here also go on to add “That’s why I switched to my Linux high horse” nine times out of ten.
Well I wouldn’t have switched if Microsoft didn’t suck… so yeah. If I had nothing to complain about, I would have just stayed on Windows.
I already switched to Mint, it’s great!
Mint is great! I use it for my laptop. Lightweight and responsive, perfect for utility. But for my desktop Bazzite is king 😎
Would Bazzite work decently on a laptop?
what? I sit in the Linux ecosystem for years - Literally my first PC as a child was on Ubuntu - and never heared of ”Bazzite”? Can you elaborate?
https://bazzite.gg/ will explain
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Having an office job means I can do both, since I can’t make my work machine run linux
I suppose they just want commiseration?
We’re just trying to help, but whatever.
can’t help people who don’t want to be helped
If they want to complain for venting purposes, they should state as such; otherwise the innate urge to help someones situation can’t be helped.
It is well possible (and even encouraged) to actively despise both Microsoft’s enshittification of its software and the harassments by the Stockholm syndrome’d Linux community.
As opposed to the MS Stockholm syndrome going on here?
Honestly, despite me not using either of those operating systems, I much prefer the Microsoft guys here. They don’t try to convert everyone to their religion.
Is that a thing? I don’t think I have ever heard someone defend microslop on here and you can bet it’s different for Linux.
I meant more the comment I was replying to rather than Lemmy as a whole.
It’s a bit Stockholmy to say “I know it’s completely enshittifying and awful but I don’t want to switch to a free alternative “
I’m kind of in the same boat though. Compatibility still breaks lots of things people don’t think about.
- music production (that’s me)
- video editing & pp
- architecture software & planning software
- legally compliant software for taxes, etc.
- various GIS software
- very specific closed source hardware
There’s quite a few people I can confidently recommend Linux to, but there’s also a bunch I can’t.
I tried setting up my DAW setup with external plugins and even with huge limitations I couldn’t get it to work. I tried 8 times, with 5 different configurations. This is not feasible. I had to switch back, and I hate that I had to do it, but I’m working with artists and costumers, and things need to work fast and stable.
oh no! help me! I’m trapped on an operating system I chose that I can configure however I want and that I can leave whenever I want!
unlike Windows, the default OS on 99% of machines, that people keep using despite the constant enshitification because of 1 or 2 softwares won’t run elsewhere and are thus trapped, no Stockholm syndrom here.
that I can configure however I want
systemd disagrees.
that I can leave whenever I want!
All operating systems, except (maybe) iOS, do that.
There are (a few) distros that don’t even uses systemd and anyway you can still tinker with systemd.
And by leaving, I meant I’m not stuck (like the Stockholm syndrome of your comment implied) on linux and can actually leave to BSD or other (or even back to windows if I ever get brain damage, who knows), so basicaly I don’t know where you get your “Stockholm syndrome” from.
If that’s all you took from my comment, I think that’s fine.
Stockholm would require the situation to be bad in some way. It is not.
