Its always good to try!
Hardware should be software agnostic
Has anyone heard word if Moto is still planning on rolling out flagship phones with e/OS by 2027 still?
Fairphone? perhaps. Samsung? hell naw. Samsung heavily benefits from the spyware it builds into One UI and 99% of its user base do not care about the spyware.
But I do hope hope that Fairphone begins to embrace Linux support.Samsung heavily benefits from the spyware it builds into One UI and 99% of its user base do not care about the spyware.
They go out of their way to ensure that it cannot be disabled even if you do care about the spyware and try to uninstall or disable it.
It 👏 should 👏 be 👏 the 👏 law 👏 .
I don’t know how they managed to sneak locking a system to a single boot loader. And what about Qualcomm chips? They have a hypervisor OS, you say? A small operating system that can read all your memory? Updated as firmware?
Great, forcibly open source that system as well and tell them once and for all that they can fuck off. No, you don’t get to control another persons property - you disgusting goblin.
Either that, or ban the sale of such devices permanently across Europe.
Fairphone should focus on helping the Linux options move along, no need waste resources on GOS, just another android ROM
Long term android should die off in place of Linux but its a long road
Have UT running on a Nord phone, they have made good strides over the years, appreciate their dedication
A Fairphone with GrapheneOS would be the tops
GrapheneOS doesn’t like Fairphone very much it seems…
Their gripe seems more to do with eOS, but they kinda couple them together. Hardware-wise fairphone is only deficient in its security chip. I do agree with GrapheneOS in criticisms of eOS’s philosophy and security and privacy goals. The found of eOS is a prick.
what led you to this conclusion?
Hmmm, maybe something like this: https://www.androidauthority.com/fairphone-murena-software-response-grapheneos-claims-3579637/
the graphene people never fail to stir pot. lol
they not wrong, but there’s better ways to inform other people.
Isn’t /e/os (murena) a seperate company from fairphone?
Yes, and I don’t know if it could even be classed as a collaboration. They just buy them and resell them with different firmware, basically?
I assume some part of acceptance is required for that in practice, but it isn’t like Fairphone ever advertised them as an official option (as far as I can tell or saw).
Sure would be the toppiest of tops!
We can encourage them to work together in their official communication channels too!
Would be good for both of them on every level. GrapheneOS learning to make their own phones, and Fairphone learning to make an OS while both being partnered
Edit: Be the change you want to see everybody!! Flood the gates with what we want!
Afaik Fairphone is not interested in implementing some security features that GrapheneOS people consider a deal breaker
I remember the GrapheneOS team saying that they won’t bring their OS to Fairphone, because the Fairphones don’t bring hardware support for security measures the GrapheneOS team doesn’t want to compromise on.
Take anything the lead dev of GrapheneOS says with a grain of salt. He’s a little… Um, special.
While his perceptions of other people’s motives and meanings may be suspect, his technical analysis seems pretty spot on.
Honestly if I had to deal with degooglers and Linux fanboys as much as he did I’d probably go batshit insane. Kudos to him
His technical chops are without question. However he has been so over the top obnoxious to MANY other leaders in the privacy space. He really hurts his own cause by refusing to acknowledge there are other threat models that can be solved with other answers.
Agree, he’s a bit paranoid and delusional. I think that may speak to his psychological profile. Who designs an impenetrable OS except someone who is a little paranoid?
One might argue it would be more difficult to do if you’re not a little paranoid.
Definitely feels like a supply chain issue on parts for Fairphone to have this position. Hopefully Fairphone, GrapheneOS, and hardware venders can work this out on a later model.
I wish we have more choice for linux phone
OEM’s
Or just OEMs, even.
Both tantalizingly close with respect to GrapheneOS. I wouldn’t expect Samsung to ever support the other two, but their phones are supposed to have every security element GOS expects. Only problem is that Samsung wants to make their own walled-garden ecosystem a la Apple.
I do remember reading somewhere that GrapheneOS are open to someone making a GSI (generic system image) port that would work with phones like Fairphone, which GOS don’t want to officially support due to a lack of security features. I wonder if anyone has started work on such a thing.
The short term is forked android. The long term is a Linux distribution, new or otherwise. It doesn’t seem reasonable to assume that the proprietary blobs in Android will get reverse engineered.
Samsung? They will not give a shit it huge corp
That’s true but you never know maybe in future they will. Definitely don’t see them doing it now. It would definitely be a hop on the wagon moment for them
Ya. Short term Motorola for Graphene, long term any that support postmarketos
I’f put my money on a repairable Huawei phone
These fuckers don’t let you unlock the bootloader, so they can burn for all I care. So far, google have the best record, then oneplus, fairphone and alike (easy to unlock the bootloader, no point or ability to relock with custom keys), then mb xiaomi (beg corporate overlords for the ability to unlock the bootloader on YOUR FUCKING PHONE) and slmsung (loose the option to unlock the bootloader on newer firmware versions, loose security features on older ones), and then huawei/crapple who don’t let you unlock the bootloader at all
Well I understand your point but don’t think google will remain the 1st in your rankings for much time
There is also shiftphone. Thats less extreme to fairphone when it comes to fairness but very repairable
Fairphone has their own with /e/OS
I owned a fairphone with e/os but what murena does feels a bit overbearing so i would be really happy about more support for other choices (also im planning/hoping to use the old phone as a small server after putting some linux on it and removing the unneccesarry hardware after setup wich would be greatly helped with proper support)
So yes: they have their own
But: options
