In case you are considering purchasing a BMW here are the models mentioned in the article:
BMW says the feature is available on suitably equipped cars built after July 2020 and running BMW Operating System 7, 8, 8.5, 9, or X
Feature?
I’m sure this will help beat the Chinese automakers
That’s a suspiciously specific promise to make.
One-time as in there won’t be another Spider-Man ad. I’m sure the next ad will also be a “one-time” deal as well.
I’ve never exactly been in the market for a bmw anyhow, but this is a great way to guarantee I will never want one.
You and me… same page
If this works in any way, shape or form for BMW then you can bet that any other manufacturer selling “connected vehicles” will sit up and take notice.
If my brand new car started pushing dashboard ads to me, it would be rejected and returned to the dealer immediately. That is the only kind of pushback they would pay attention to.
What do you mean by “returned to the dealer”? Like you would trade it in and take whatever lowball offer they give you, or you would break the lease and pay the $3000 penalty, or you would just leave it there and ??? Profit?
Is there another potential outcome I’m not thinking of?
We’re heading straight towards a cyberpunk future.
And not even a shiny, pretty, exciting one, ours is still half boring for some reason. I can’t even pin down what’s missing. It still feels like ours has wood paneling or something, but even that would be too '70s, which would still be a little cool. Maybe ours is too '90s? Our cyberpunk somehow still feels too analogue and not enough.
Its not a time period or quality issue but an ownership one. You can buy a new car but you don’t ever really own it fully.
Anytime a corporation or a politicians says they aren’t going to do something, it means they’re thinking about that subject, and they are definitely going to do it.
We make far more decisions to NOT do something, and if someone doesn’t want to do something, they just don’t do it, they don’t tell everybody. We don’t talk about the things we aren’t going to do, we talk about things we ARE going to do.
Years ago, I was in a national managers conference call meeting, and HQ started it by saying “If there are rumors of lay-offs in your office, shut them down. There are no plans for lay-offs at this time.” I don’t remember what the rest of the meeting was about, but we all walked saying “Lay-offs are coming.”
Sure enough, within two months, I was out of a job, along with a bunch of others. Within a year, several branch offices were closed. We weren’t worried about it at all, until they brought it up in the meeting.
If they’re bringing it up, they’re softening us up for it, even if they’re saying No.
one of these days I’m going to spend a weekend going from dealership to dealership looking for a new car, and just wasting their time when I come across nonsense features like this
that Prius feature that beeps and distracts you from the road whenever you pull up to an intersection? that’s fucked up
those features that remind you to pay attention to the road because you have sunglasses on, and pull your attention away from the road to tell you that? that’s fucked up
the features that aggressively keep you in your lane when you drift to give room to an obstacle? that’s fucked up
This is a capital offense.
On supported vehicles, starting the car brings up a banner on the Control Display, and tapping it launches a full-screen Spider-Man animation with music and ambient lighting effects. BMW says the feature is available on suitably equipped cars built after July 2020 and running BMW Operating System 7, 8, 8.5, 9, or X.
Ah, I see. It’s a feature! I’m surprised they’re not trying to charge a subscription fee to get ads on your dashboard.
Don’t forget a subscription fee to get rid of ads!
Was looking for a new electric car and had BMW in the rotation. That’s not happening now. Was already on shaky ground after the heated seat thing and now I’m not touching em.
I have a feeling a bunch of folks are going to want to rip their modems out of their cars in the next few years.
Curious, what IS the best new car brand for privacy? Especially in the EV sector?
Fuck all. Especially in Europe now if mandates you have a camera watching your face in all new cars
So late 2023 models is all you get
This is mandatory in America too, starting in 2027. It was passed hidden away in a “jobs act” in 2021.
Your linked article talks about the need to research the tech to stop impaired driving.
It’s not mandatory yet, as best as I can read it for now.
It’s not an article. It is a report to Congress detailing attempted compliance with a new mandate.
It looks like the mandatory compliance date has been pushed back. So no cameras next year, but if you read the recent report, that is the direction they are going.
They want it, duh. It don’t mean they’ll get it. Of course we can’t sleep on this either, so your warnings are fair. Thank you.
They already are. Driver monitoring using cameras that watch your face 24/7, though not mandatory, are already shipping in cars from Subaru, Toyota, Ford, GM, and Tesla. It may be more, but those are the ones I know of. You’re welcome, good luck.
Guess which cameras are getting the hammer or the duct tape?
Or buy used.
If this disease spreads, we’ll need to have a talk with the CEOs and the big investors.
I’m waiting to see regular reviews of those slate trucks and maybe a second model year/iteration. And maybe waiting to see if they eventually get better range. Sure not having a radio or infotainment is overkill, and only hand crank windows is overkill, but for $25k-30k and no big screen, it seems quite reasonable if all I want is a reliable box that moves around.
That’s the allure for me. I can choose to buy what I can afford and then at a later date add other options myself as I want them or need them. But the range is an issue for me as a rural person where a trip to a clinic is 100 mile round trip. And if I need more, then it becomes a 200+ mile trip.
You’re not going to want to hear this but… Tesla. It’s always been Tesla. No ads, no subscriptions for seat heaters, no selling your driving data.
- Tesla absolutely sell software locked heated seats as DLC, as well as subscriptions for “self driving” packages.
- They will advertise/upsell their own services in their app, including free trials of their “premium” features.
- If you think they are using your driving data (including camera feeds) in any responsible way then I have a bridge to sell you. There have been documented cases of Tesla employees watching their customers fuck on the interior cameras.
For context - I used to own one.
Read up. Elon is not your friend: https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Tesla
Are people seriously this ignorant.
Nazis lie.
You’re talking about the brand that is paywalling the auto drive after saying they never would ?
Users see the word “Tesla” and hit the down arrow without considering context or data. Tesla is a terrible company, and Musk is an egotistical, racist manbaby; those aren’t the only reasons why I won’t buy a Tesla, but they are a big part. The truth is that every big automobile manufacturer is bad when it comes to infotainment user experience and data privacy.
I won’t buy a Tesla, and most people I know won’t either. But when it comes to the US auto market, Tesla is consistently rated as one of the best user infotainment experiences, specifically because of the things you mentioned. I know someone who bought the 2026 Nissan Leaf, and they love it. I’ve ridden in it a lot and I think it’s a great car… except for the user experience. Every time the car is turned on a pop up covers most of the console advertising satellite radio subscriptions. There’s no way to disable it. Nissan is widely known to be the worst when it comes to user privacy, too.
Slate has my attention and I want them to disrupt the market. I’m considering buying one for my next vehicle, with the range being the only thing that hasn’t locked in my decision yet. I take several long (500+ miles) trips each year, and I would prefer to avoid having to use Tesla superchargers as there aren’t any other fast DC chargers along the route.
I beg to differ, see Mozilla’s “Privacy Nightmare on Wheels” report for Tesla
In short: currently all options suck
Hey, did you actually read that article you linked? It clearly states Nissan’s the worst offender, and Tesla’s privacy issue was that 2022 data breach where employees shared videos. I’m not defending Tesla, but let’s stick to the facts here.
Did you only read the summary or the full report on Tesla? I linked 2 different pages so you can have your facts straight
the seat heater sub kept me away from buying a new one anyway
also the buck teeth grills
and maybe the rampant fires the media ignores.
That is an ugly car. Why can’t EVs look like normal cars?
What’s a “normal” car?
1990s styling
The Canyonero
Fair point.
But companies always hold their promises…
To their shareholders…
