• adarza@lemmy.ca
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    11 minutes ago

    8 hours to pay the landlord, 8 hours to pay the other bills, 8 hours for everything else

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    6 hours ago

    Half of those “8 hours for what we will” are spent getting ready for, transportation between, and decompressing from the work hours. After time for cooking, cleaning, shopping, and other chores, we still get very little of the “what we will” hours.

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      You didn’t mention unpaid lunch time, making sure you get there before clock in, any phone calls or emails that happen after hours, taking kids to daycare, and all the little things that you wouldn’t be doing if it wasn’t for your job. I guess that comes out of the “8 hours of sleep” time.

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      Yeah, life was a lot simpler when your wife/servant prepped all your food and work was a fifteen minute walk away.

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        That’s the world executives still live in, contributing significantly to the disconnect between their realities and those of their workers.

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    When the 40 hour work week was brought in, working men were expected to have a wife at home to do all the household labour.

    “8 hours for what we will” gets eroded pretty quickly now that both of you are expected to work.

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    The 8/8/8 hours scheme is a lie:

    8 hours of work + 0,5-1 hour break at work + 1-2 hours of travel from/to work + 1-2 hour household (cooking, washing clothes, grocery shopping, …) + 6-8 hours of sleep = 16,5-21 hours

    This leaves 3-7,5 hours of free time per day.

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    This feels like billionaire propaganda. “Everything’s balanced and fair, we already give you 16 off. Work hard in the eight you give us” or something

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    In 1872, a group of Toronto printers went on strike, fighting for a nine-hour work day. (The standard work day was 10 to 12 hours at the time.) The workers’ demand to reduce their hours had been refused by print shop owners, and in particular, George Brown, a respected father of Confederation and founder of The Globe, a predecessor to The Globe and Mail.

    Ten thousand people marched in support of the workers to Queen’s Park.

    Many of the printers lost their jobs, but the incident led then prime minister Sir John A. Macdonald, a rival of Brown’s who was keen to gain worker support, to legalize union activities. In the years that followed, unions across North America pushed for shorter work days, and the eight-hour day eventually became standard.

    There’s some dispute around the origins of America’s Labor Day, but some historians believe U.S. labour leader Peter J. McGuire, inspired after visiting a Toronto labour gathering, organized the first American Labor Day parade in 1882.

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-lessons-from-the-birth-of-labour-day/