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    The internet says the US sells appoximately 200 million pounds of meat a day based on per capital numbers. This is a big number, but drop in the bucket.

    That said, they put a false inspection number on it and the recall happened because they got caught. My guess is mis labeling and not being inspected is probably more common than we know.

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        i don’t have roaches in my home. we mainly use oils and butters but once in a while get the bong out but its annoying to clean

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          …sayin’ I’m happy when I’m NOT,
          finding roaches in the POT.

          Whoaaooaaa, all these things I dooo,
          they’re waiting for you…

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        Do you know why they found it? Because they LOOK for that.

        It’s an extremely unpopular opinion, and Trump has tried to make our safety nets worse, but the US has pretty good safety nets.

        But just like anything else, good safety doesn’t mean nothing ever happens. “Safe” drivers are still involved in accidents. Airplanes are safer than cars but do occasionally crash.

        We should always want more safety, but food safety in the US is still pretty damned good.

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          Tell that to all the people who ate Taco Bell shredded lettuce. US food safety is worse than any developed western country. It was before Trump.

          Air traffic control too. Wtf.

          Why are so many Americans sharing this cope? Your country is fucked and has been fucking you your whole life. Why gaslight others?

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            “Airplanes are safer to travel in than cars.” “Tell that to someone who died in a plane crash!”

            I’m focused on the fascism and oligarch problem that are fucking me, not on things that are popular but INCORRECT as major problems.

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              Massive cuts to air traffic control has resulted in accidents killing people.

              Massive cuts and underfunding of regulatory bodies has made food more unsafe and deadly. Combined with a legislative environment that also has different pesticides, processes, growth hormones, gmos and other additives deemed unsafe for human consumption in other developed countries.

              Massive cuts in foreign aid are leading to outbreaks endangering US food supplies.

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        With the efforts to neuter regulatory and inspection agencies, it’s surprising they caught this, but who knows how long it’s been going on even just the one company

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        167k is what wasn’t federally checked. Nothing was found or even tested. Which isn’t great, but it’s not like it is killing people.

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    Don’t want to guit-trip anyone but being critical of what you eat is good for everyone. Eating less meat is good for the planet and your health, even if the meat is not contaminated. If you don’t like CNN you can find very similar content from other sources by using a search engine of your choice.

    Yes, I’m cherry picking.

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        Got food poisoning this week, probably from cilantro.

        I’m pissed. First time I’m my life I’ve ever had it and now I have to boil my pico de gallo or it’ll probably happen again

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          The great thing about cilantro is that you can wash it with soap and if you leave a little soap on there you won’t taste it

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          No boil, but wash in (lightly) soapy water with lots of agitation for at least a minute and rinse well. Or use a product designed for that and rinse well.

          Yeah, I’d be pissed too. The problem these days is that anything less than an actual cleaning agent isn’t going to dislodge whatever industrial-strength nasty is on the leaves, so you can’t just rinse and call it done anymore.

          Not shaming you, I had to learn the hard way too. I wash all produce now, and have for years. When you know, you know, and now unfortunately you know too.

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            I’m probably going to do both going forward

            I know boiling works cus I cooked the beans I made with the water from the contaminated pico the cilantro was in (didn’t know I had a problem at that point).

            I’ve been eating the beans still, no problems, so the cooking must’ve helped neutralize it.

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            Obligatory joke about how it’s a bigger pain the ass to not wash it.

            Fr though I’ve heard it’s basically impossible to wash the bacteria off veggies if it’s there and cooking is the only safe option. Washing is for dirt and pesticides. So do both.

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              My grandmother lived in an expat enclave in Taipei in the 60s and was told to dunk absolutely everything from the market in a dilute bleach solution and let it dry.

              Same treatment for the odd skin rash. Have the kid take a bath in dilute bleach (I have had this procedure, itchy as fuck but it works).

              I guess that’s an option

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            The tomatoes are pretty watery, even after pulling out over a cup of water. Plus the lime juice added a bit back.

            Basically I just dumped it into a high-rimmed sauce pan, turned on the heat and waited til it was boiling. I gave it ~25 minutes on a light boil, and it smelled a bit less pungent but otherwise looked about the same.

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        Yeah at this point, the solution is community gardens.

        That still means eating less meat - good luck raising a cow in your neighborhood lol

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              New from Balco, the Balco Cow! Need a cow for milk or meat but live in a pesky apartment? Balco has solved your problems! The Balco Cow is a 1/3-sized adult cow that won’t stress your apartment’s balcony like a full-sized cow would. Now you can have your milk and cheese or if it’s l’il Bessie’s time some steak fajitas!

              Call Balco today!!!

              Hay not included.

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        vegetables

        So definitely don’t eat Mitch when devouring the rich

        *w I n k

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      Damn near everything in this shithole is contaminated as of the past year or two so there’s no winning safety-wise by shifting to plant-based, at least on that front.

      I have noticed I tend to get sicker when I eat the (properly cooked!) little meat I can lately, though, which I suspect is due to skyrocketed antibiotic use in poultry farming the last decade or two. I also avoid deli meats for similar reasons.

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          there’s no winning safety-wise by shifting to plant-based, at least on that front.

          And my following paragraph elaborates on meat still being a somewhat worse option

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            Okay, my bad. I take safety as meaning overall health outcomes not just acute sickness.

            I do think it’s useful to consider that fecal contamination of produce is often associated with poor management of waste from the industrial slaughter industry.

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        It makes sense, the government is contaminated with greedy/corrupt/pervy morons, of course they wouldn’t be able to give any serious thought into their responsibilities. They’re too busy taking bribes or hanging out on Islands or funding genocide.

        Anyone with half a brain knew this was going to happen, eventually.

        The only question is, was it on purpose or by accident?

        I say a combination of both, in that order.

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      Dont upset the planet warmers. They’re already upset about AI warming up the planet and using up vast amounts of water.

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        I’m gonna need you to go into your moldy bathroom, look into your toothpaste splattered mirror…and slap yourself. Three times. Really hard.

        Or, just look at yourself and think about what you just said.

        I’m sure either option will be equally painful.

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      Yes, I’m cherry picking.

      and those are “linked” and “may”

      Reducing methane production is an easier sell. Crops are less a better return on land use -> food. The better Plant based beef for most uses is better than trash-level burger meat.

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    Fuck you republicans

    this is all on you, from voters to politicians

    you really are garbage people, fuck you from the bottom of my heart

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    This is more you should know if your in Georgia. America isn’t so tiny that this small of a recall is remotely fucking close to “if you are American”.

    I got very worried for a second. But the post title is nothing but fear mongering and very misleading.

    Do people not realize how fucking MASSIVE America is?

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    When is meat not recalled in the US?

    You guys should probably set up some sort of the government department to keep an eye on this.

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    After this, importing foreign meat, and the secretary of agriculture suggesting Americans should eat less beef if they can’t afford it, you’d expect the people who flipped out over just the speculation that Biden would limit beef consumption for all Americans to be livid right now.

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    This is bad advice, fellow Americans.

    Look up where the recalls and violations have happened. Also, look up the cuts of meat.

    Big numbers don’t mean all of America. What a stupid suggestion.

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      I think the best advice is to do both: check what meat if affected and whether that might include the meat you’re looking at. If you’re not sure, maybe skip meat for a change. You can do without.

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      I mean, definitely read the article, 167000 lbs, isn’t very much. I imagine that a certain area around north Carolina is affected, but not much more then that.

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      I would assume officials warning this is a “nationwide” issue means exactly all of the US.

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        There are lot numbers for specific products, it’s not all meat and it’s not distributed evenly across the country.

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      167 metric tonnes doesnt seem like that much in the grand scheme things, but ultimately that could at worst kill hundreds of people.

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    Don’t eat A&D meat.

    This is not because of deregulation, this is because Star Meat Delivery attempted to avoid inspection by falsely labeling their meat as inspected.

    The active regulatory body discovered it, and as it wasn’t inspected, the rule is immediate Class I.

    While im all for blaming the GOP on deregulation, deregulation did not enable this. Regulation issued the recall.

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      … this is absolutely down to deregulation. You wouldn’t be able to put your fake stickers on shit if the FDA guy is there everyday like he’s fucking supposed to be.

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        I’ll be honest with you; I’m inclined to look at it the same way as the person you’re replying to and I’ve yet to see any article attributing this to, or outlining how it’s related to, the recent de-regulation.

        Perhaps you could source your claim?

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            Call me sceptical but I doubt a fiction book published ~120 years ago predicted the recall of 167000 pounds of meat in 2026 and then went further to outline how it was directly related to the recent deregulation by the Trump administration.

            Perhaps you’d like to be a little more verbose and expand on this comment?

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              it was in reference to the point that this is not new. yes, you are correct in that it is not a direct source, but instead i took it as a chance to recommend one of my favorite books.

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                it was in reference to the point that this is not new. yes

                What point?

                you are correct in that it is not a direct source

                Or a source at all.

                but instead i took it as a chance to recommend one of my favorite books

                Oh…

                “Calvin and Hobbes” - Bill Watterson

                Am I doing it right?

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      It’s because Star Meat Delivery had assumed the deregulation progress was further along than it actually was and thought Trump’s USDA would let them get away with it.

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      If we had proper regulation, there would have been 167000lbs of this shit to recall.

      This is not ‘oh, the regulation works or it doesn’t’, humans like to do that a lot for some reason, this whole ‘it’s either one thing or the other’. Nuance and gradients are a real thing. This would not have happened in a robust regulatory environment. The one we have operates on shoe strings.

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        You bold it like that’s some significant number….

        The US consumes 76 billion pounds of red meat and poultry per year.

        Thsi is more like finding a mosquito in your house.

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          Holy red herring. The point isn’t the percentage, the point is that fraud this size got past the system at all. They falsified labels - that’s egregious, planned, and indicates a systemic issue with the company.

          And sprinkling in a bit of cherry picking? You’re dividing what 1 single inspection incident caught against the entire country’s consumption of all meat for an entire year. This is apples and oranges, and entirely beside the point - you don’t conflate detection with prevalence. Detection indicates a thing is happening, but doesn’t indicate the entire scope. If you’d like to look at it in a real-world sort of way - this single inspection incident showed that enough beef to feed nearly 3000 people for an entire year had falsified labels. You can always make something seem small if you appeal to a relative scale to suit your argument.

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      No, keep it. But disregard it for what it is: bullshit.

      As the late great George Carlin told us: it’s bullshit, and it’s bad for us.

      Fuck you, OP.

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      Yeah 'cause we know all the fresh veggie product from such brands as Taylor Farms is perfectly safe…

      (jk going vegetarian or vegan is an admirable choice even if you do it noncommittally by reducing your animal protein consumption. Every 1 gram of animal protein required ~9g of feed depending on the animal.)

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        You… don’t… need to buy those manufactured food products, either, you realize? Chickpeas and rice, mushrooms, tofu, etc. can all lend you to making your own tasty recipes.

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          Yeah mostly joking. I actually do like some of the veggie substitutes. I also like tofu. My grocer carries a brand of ultra dense stuff that’s great breaded and fried.

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          Any advice on how to make tofu flavourful? I’ve been trying to use it but anytime I do, it’s more just kinda there rather than really adding anything to the flavour profile. Ironically, some of the “failures” where it all crumbled into something similar to scrambled eggs might have been one of the times where it did seem to pick up flavour, but while I wouldn’t say the texture was bad that way, I’d like to get more out of it without it falling apart if possible.

          Some chefs on shows like culinary class wars put great effort into making tofu for their dishes (one guy even won the whole show with a dish like that), so I feel like there’s gotta be something I’m missing.

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            Lots of people on YouTube have tons of tips on ways to doctor up the taste and texture of tofu, but personally what I think it comes down to is just eating it regularly enough for it to become an acquired taste. It’s not the best absorber of flavors, sauces and marinades will only penetrate about a millimeter or two. You can get deep flavor infusion with brines, but then you’re eating a lot of sodium too.

            People often recommend cutting it into smaller pieces so you’re getting a better sauce to tofu ratio. As you said, crumbling it does increase surface area and help it hold more flavors.

            So just keep trying things, and keep eating it, cause eventually you will start to actually enjoy it’s own natural flavor (some brands taste better than others too). I’m at the point now where I keep it as simple as possible. Forget the unnecessary kitchen gear like presses. I take it right out of the package, maybe squeeze a little water out, and then I’ll just smash the thing and crumble it right into whatever I’m cooking.

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              Ah ok, that sounds consistent with what I’ve been seeing. So if I’m understanding correctly, tofu has a flavour/texture tradeoff (best texture I’ve gotten from it was once when I cut it into like 1cm slices and seared them, managed to get a decent sear on both sides without them sticking to the pan and crumbling. Actually the flavour wasn’t that bad either, that one was more simple so I think it was mostly just the tofu and the sear, plus some olive oil that infused it.

              I just realized I haven’t tried marinating it yet and a quick search looks like people are saying good things about that.

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                I don’t make it often, but if you marinate it in something like half soy, one quarter rice wine vinegar, and one quarter mirin, then bread with corn starch, egg wash, and panko, you can make awesome deep fried tofu bites. This works well with the less dense stuff most stores carry.

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        They start the first time you can mention you are vegan in a conversation that isn’t about food or animal products.

        I use arch btw.

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        It’s a gradual building process, but some perks happen very quickly. Like your whole body being in distinctly less pain - that can happen in days depending on your inflammation status. Or being super bloated because you started eating way too much fiber way too soon, that can happen in a day.

        After a few years you may find your immune system starts to become superhuman. Not even joking, it’s kind of wild how much more resilient I am to sickness these days. Getting sick far less frequently, symptoms consistently becoming laughably mild, and duration is far shorter too.

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          there is education that goes along with it to actually manage nutrients/macros than just ‘go vegan’ and leave it at that

          beans are not a protein that every body can digest

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            That’s why I said statistically. Yeah you can go vegan on oreos and french fries and drag down the stats, but on the whole vegans do better.

            It know, not a great superpower.

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              Personally, I think that stat is going to see some dips soon, with everything being loaded with coconut oil these days.

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                I don’t think so. The processed vegan meat substitutes are almost as bad for you as the real deal, but they’re also really expensive. After a year or two of that most of us are forced to learn to cook for ourselves from scratch, and once we do that we learn that you can get way tastier / healthier / cheaper meals that way. At least, that was my trajectory.

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        once you go vegan you instantaneously get the power of a smug sense of superiority. though, admittedly, it doesn’t do anything but make you an annoying asshole.

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      nah. I’ll just continue purchasing meat from my local butcher that sources from local farms.

      thanks though.

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      or vegetarian. or stick to chicken. as per article in what it was recalling.

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    Officially inspected meat from the US is not good enough for export into the EU. How much worse could uninspected meat be?

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      We had some scares in the past. We learned from our mistakes. The EU actually does a lot of shit right.

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      I don’t want to like Costco, but they’re making it really hard.

      I don’t like being in there, I don’t like shopping in a damn warehouse. I hate the parking lot clusterfuck experience.

      I do like that they curate a very good selection and they treat their employees well.

      Why can’t they just run a normal-scale grocery store?!

    • YSK California has the most stringent food safety regulations in the country, going above and beyond what the fed requires. Thank fuck I live here and not somewhere that does the bare minimum required of them (which, rn, is doing nothing at all).