I wonder what % of Republican boomers that support the war in Iran also refused, in one way or another, to fight in Vietnam.
Would be an interesting stat to see.
That was a pretty common evolution they went through. My mom was a free love hippie that is now basically a Nazi. She can’t understand why I cut her out of my life.
The hippie to fascist pipeline is real. Their tendency to distrust the establishment means they also fall for typical fascists tactics like putting the blame on the establishment and a secret cabal in power for all their problems. Like in my country during Covid lockdowns these so called “spiritual” people voted for the blatantly fascist party.
As I said in another comment, it taught me that my father apparently only cared about the aesthetics of being a hippie, but there was never any deeper political ideology or understanding underpinning it.
I imagine this was the case for a lot of ex-hippies.
Also lots of people became hippies purely to rebel against their parents. Bet many dads back then had untreated war trauma and thus were quite unbearable parents.
That sounds plausible, but I don’t think that’s the case for my mom. I think she was just going with the trend, trying to be in the “in group”. I can say with 100% certainty a big part of her Nazi transition is the lack of empathy that she has.
That doesn’t fit a hippie
Turns out a lot of hippies were just there for the vibes. They just wanted to get stoned and listen to good music.
It doesn’t fit your idea of a hippie or even my idea of a hippie, but there it was.
Same for my mom. Always a people loving hippie and into crystals and alternative healing, but during covid she discovered telegram and now she votes for the far right and believes in qanon or whatever the latest stuff is.
It’s honestly fucking tragic.
But it has taught me that my dad cared more about the aesthetics of the hippie culture, but never actually stood for any real ideology. Just shallow bullshit like music and fashion. And acid.
I suspect this is probably the case for a lot of ex-hippies.
Real fucking shame.
And don’t get me wrong, the music was fucking awesome. I just wish there was more substance.
Interestingly, this made me think of George Harrison talking about visiting San Francisco in, I think 1967. He was struck by how vapid it all was.
However, he turned to spirituality instead of rationality.
Hippie » alternative medicine » anti-vaxxer » Russian propaganda consumer » nazi
I really don’t understand how that shift is actually possible.
They were going with the flow.
Well, there’s the president for one
Is that the “Jesus Christ is my ni*ga!” couple? Serious question lol
Holy shit. No, that’s him! I didn’t notice
That’s delightfully horrific 😂
This video is offensive. They used Papyrus font.
Can someone clarify if this was done to be satire?
no
No, you can’t clarify, or no, it wasn’t satire?
Oh I could clarify. But I won’t. 🤐
They were oblivious to the derogatory use of the word ni**ah. They have a church in a mostly black community where the churchgoing youth was dwindling so they made a rap video to address the local youth in a way they thought was fitting and hoped that young people would attend the sermons more. The local community enjoyed it because the couple didn’t do it bad spirited. They profusely apologized for using the n-word, and explained what they were hoping to achieve.
I am not American, so maybe that is why I never understood why words that are so terrible they should be never said, should be used inflationarily in mass media. Why their should be songs in the charts you are only allowed to sing faithfully if you have the right colour of skin.
Seems to be considered a parody/hoax
The Dallas Observer also criticized the song, saying: “it’s cheesy. It’s bad. It’s painful.” It described the song as having a negative impact on public perception of Christian rap.
If anything this video probably improved the public perception by associating it with something lighthearted and fun.
I recognized them immediately.
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Young men put Trump back in power. Not the boomers
Its the 1% vs the working class, not generation vs generation.
And unfortunately part of that working class are class traitors who vote against the rest of our interests as they pull the ladder up behind them.
Look into who voted Trump in. Young White males
If by young white males you meant 45-64 white people of both genders then you spelled it weird.
Young men showed one of the sharpest rightward swings of any age cohort in 2024. After backing Joe Biden by double digits in 2020, voters aged 18–29 saw a massive gender divergence: The Margin Swing: Men under 30 swung toward Donald Trump by roughly 15 to 20 percentage points compared to 2020, with several exit polls showing Trump either tying or outright winning the demographic. The Widening Gender Gap: While young women continued to favor Kamala Harris by wide margins (roughly 18–20 points), young men broke heavily in the other direction, creating the largest ideological gender gap ever recorded among young voters.
Racial Diversity Among Young Men: The shift was especially pronounced among non-white younger men. Young Latino men split evenly or favored Trump, and young Black men shifted significantly rightward compared to 2020 exit numbers.
Key Drivers: Post-election analyses cited sharp dissatisfaction with the cost of living and inflation, a rejection of mainstream Democratic cultural messaging, and Trump’s aggressive outreach through alternative media (podcasts, streaming platforms, and the “manosphere”).Feel free to mock the AI as well. It’s expected
Boomers vote to build walls when they can barely lift a brick
Yep, they have the opportunity to build bridges, but they choose to build walls and gatekeep.
My boomer mom from Germany would do the same
How much do you trust European countries to be better?
There are differences, actually from country to country. Austria for example pioneered the whole thing (at least in Europe) when, what is nowadays conservative mainstream, was in the international media reported as “nazi country doing nazi things”. Those stories stopped at some point or had gotten so hypocritical that they approached satire level. Not because those things aren’t “nazi” btw, but because they became popular in most Western countries.
Austria has been through at least 3 right populist cycles already, starting in the 1980s. Cycles, because unless the populist right manages to degrade democracy enough, they always blow themselves up due to their boundless corruption.Their voters remember for a few years (except for the hardened Nazi core) and then suffer from mass dementia and go back to those very same people who messed up the last time.
In short, Europe is just one stepb behind the US. The fascist traitors dressing up as patriots do encounter setbacks once in a while though, see Hungary.
blowing up the world’s energy infrastructure is an American problem.
Sure in the way it’s an everyone problem.
sounds like you might have some oil to liberate you European cuck.
You misspelled Republicans
The Venn diagram is a circle
No war but the class war
Two things can be true at once
Until class traitors (boomers) spend decades voting against your future interests.
The class war is the priority, but it’s ok to be mad at assholes pulling up the ladder behind them.
When I visit my father I would walk with his next door neighbor. This guy never understood the whole idea of social agreements. What I mean by that is his daughter went to high school for free off the taxes of somebody else but now when he’s paying taxes and doesn’t have his daughter in school he bitches and moans that he has to pay and he shouldn’t have to. I’m like dude someone paid for your daughter so it’s your responsibility to pay for someone else’s daughter. Someone helped you so it’s a social agreement to help them. He doesn’t get it, it’s like you must be really stupid and greedy or something.
Considering the complete lack of correlation between issues that voters care about and the policies that politicians actually enact, I don’t think that merely voting makes boomers blameworthy.
Studies have repeatedly shown that politicians in both parties do not act in accordance with what their voters want, so clearly voting does not affect policy.
Sure, but the bourgeoisie have convinced a large portion of the would-be proletariat to side with them. So insomuch as the average ‘soldier’ in this war is more likely to encounter a coal-rolling boomer than Elon Musk, there is more to this than pure class politics.
The elected officials sending everyone off to die for war are often older than boomers. It’s a rich and powerful group more than a generational group.
You’re right. I’ve got maga-headed boomers in my life I want to take it out on though and posting memes is how I give that desire an outlet
I mean it probably would be more productive to add “MAGA Boomers” (or more accurately “Capitalist Boomers”) in an effort to make it clearer whom your ire is with.
You’re probably right. It isn’t actually my meme but I should get in the habit of tweaking them
Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poorLyrics from War Pigs, Black Sabbath (1970)
The gerontology group!
Seems to me you can handle it one of two ways.
One, you can punish the boomers. When Z gets in power, abolish pensions, Social Security, and Medicare. Let the old die from poverty and disease. And then you yourself won’t have any safety net when you’re that age.
Two, you can focus on the class struggle. Focus on weakening the billionaires who control us and who made up this bullshit in the first place. Target income inequality, access to services, and draconian employment practices. Begin the century-long transformation of capitalism. This is the harder road.
So which one will do more good?
Obviously the latter. But I need to make fun of older Americans who lost the plot for my mental health
i appreciate you for this answer
I appreciate you speaking truth to situation. It’s easy for me to get caught up in the rage, so I at least owe some emotional honesty
I saw wildmimic in this thread too and know they’re kind of on the same page
TacoButtPlug wasn’t the one spewing truth btw.
Damn I’m stupid.
Yo, @snarkpolo@lemmy.world ! I’m dumb as hell and should have said thank you on your comment. That is all
You truly are dumb as hell.
i spew other things ;p
Ok… Is it a butt plug made out of tacos, a butt plug in a taco, or a butt plug for when you’re having tacos?
#3 !
It is super easy for you to get caught up in rage, as I have demonstrated myriad times. Lmao.
Ageism and liberals, name a more iconic duo.
You’re slowing down today. Only 6 replies? Must be a hard day at work in the “pretend to be a socialist” factory
Just because you have zero ability to study and utilize an ideology doesn’t mean everyone else is fake. It means you’re a sad sack of shit who would rather make things up and get owned constantly than read a book.
I am a socialist. You can’t change that.
Who do you think wants to change you? You’re a valuable whipping boy in the community
The idea that you enjoy using slave-owner idioms is so not surprising. Reactionary piece of shit.
name a more iconic duo.
Boomers and fucking over everyone else for their own benefit.
As a millennial I find it a little funny whenever someone says that type of stuff about Gen Z, because they used to say that about us. I hate to tell you but the people that get into power are almost always the shit heads. It’s not a generational thing. It’s a wealth and privilege thing. The future Gen Z leaders will be the same entitled out-of-touch shitheads that they always are. The lower-upper class is where the rich elites get there stock of candidates from.
Boomers own 52% of the country, they ARE the class struggle. Over 55s together over 70%. I don’t think anyone in gen Z is operating under the assumption they could ever retire anyway? They’re not pumping out enough babies to fund their retirement. Neither are us millennials.
This is a logical error.
Over 55s own about 73%
What this number establishes is that a significant portion of the owning class is over 55. What it doesn’t show is that the boomers are the ownership class. If one guy over 55 owns 75% of the country, you still end up with
Over 55s own about 73%
being true. You’re focussing on the wrong group of people.
Here’s a fact:
Households with a white householder hold roughly 80% of the nation’s total wealth
Does this mean we should be mad at white people?
One, you can punish the boomers. When Z gets in power, abolish pensions, Social Security, and Medicare. Let the old die from poverty and disease. And then you yourself won’t have any safety net when you’re that age.
Gen Z doesn’t need to be in power for this. The actual boomers are doing this on their way out.
One, you can punish the boomers. When Z gets in power, abolish pensions, Social Security, and Medicare. Let the old die from poverty and disease.
I mean we can place warranted blame on them without murdering them.
I can simultaneously fight the class war while calling out asshole class traitors who are pulling the ladder up behind them. It’s not like they’re going to join forces with us. They’ve made it abundantly clear they’re planning on fucking us over all the way to the grave.
The one that will do the most good is holding guilty parties accountable, instead of presenting a non sequitir strawman.
People rightly hate boomers as a group because they are largely entitled spoiled brats who call everyone else entitled spoiled brats.
They are largely the living embodiment of moral hazard who deem themselves inherently correct and reasonable while being obviously short sighted hypocrites, who have indeed caused their children massive sanity/psychic damage to the point that its now a widespread practice for kids to cut off all contact with their boomer parents. They are the ‘fuck you, I got mine’ generation. They are the weak men who create hard times, while thinking themselves to be the strong men who create good times.
WASP Boomers are also the group that is actually most responsible for driving up housing prices and destroying the economy and society in that way. They consistently voted for NIMBY construction and tax policies. Most second+ homes are owned by Boomer ‘Mom and Pop’ landlords, not actually private equity firms. Yes the Boomers did create the political environment that gave rise to PE RE firms by voting to effrctively disenfranchise non WASP non Boomers, as well as destroy traditional pensions and replace them with 401ks, but they also are the most likely group to personally own a few other homes or have house flipped a number of times.
Yes, we should have actual policy responses that specifically target these and other specific anti social economic practices and tax them into non viability, but we can’t, at least not at a national level, because of the dysfunctional government voted for, for decades, by Boomers.
The current crop of billionaires are the inevitable result of the Boomer mindset codified into formal societal rules. Yes we should specifically tax billionaires out of existence, but we also need to dismantle the systems that allow for billionaires to arise in the first place.
Presenting a dichotomy of ‘kill all boomers and abolish social safety nets’ vs ‘tax billionaires and do class struggle’ is a laughable misdirect.
What would actually do more good is a combination of in depth and honest economic and tax policy reform, wealth taxes and such, accompanied by acknowledging the fact that many Boomers have been abusive hypocritical sociopathic narcissists in every dimension of their lives and have caused considerable direct harm to people personally.
The zeitgeist of Boomer hate is never going to end until Boomers collectively take accountability for the harm they’ve caused, economic and psychological.
The Boomers do not get to spend their whole lives playing at being rugged individualists while actually consistently rigging the system for their own preferential treatment, and then when that largely fails them because they got out sharked by better sharks, then get to play the “we’re all in this together guys” card.
No. We’d be idiots to trust Boomers not to continue to act selfishly while disguising their self serving greed behind a different rhetorical justification. All the Boomers have ever collectively shown themselves to be is arrogant selfish lying assholes who will betray you when its benefits them personally, and then belittle you for not seeing that coming.
I’ll believe a Boomer is serious about class struggle when they actively advocate for something like exponentially increasing marginal property tax rates on home values, for personal or business ownership… when they commit to actually mandating their own outsized wealth be redistributed to those with less.
Instead what we see in the most Boomer over represented areas is … total repeal of property taxes.
- Send Trump and cronies to the Hague for war crimes.
- Expell Israeli ambassador and diplomatic personnel.
- Disband AIPAC; try citizens on their board for treason.
- Keep all the social safety nets, and fund it by eviscerating billionaires with wealth taxes.
- Break up and nationalize big-tech like Theodore Roosevelt, a (gasp) Republican.
- Introduce age ceilings and term limits for every elected office in the United States.
- Mandate rank-choiced voting, undo all gerry-mandering.
- Release Epstein files.
Watch boomers mald and rejoice in schädenfreude.
And honestly, at this point if you go to a local Democratic party meeting, see a bunch of protesters on the side of the road, or meet with the local liberal or progressive organization’s members – the majority of the most active members will be boomers in a huge portion of the country. Outside of the cities and/or the odd left-leaning rural area, young people don’t seem to get involved.
So, to blame the problems on just that generation but also all of that generation is just wrong.
I think this isn’t because boomers are the only ones who care about politics, but more because boomers are more likely to be retired now and have free time to do this stuff. I agree that generational warfare is stupid
Yea, there was that Power to the People concert in my county this weekend. All the acts and seemingly most of the concert-goes were 40+. Same as the No Kings protest crowds.
40+ are Millennials. Millennials are defined as 30 to 45. Gen x are 46 to 60 and Boomers are 61+.
Millennials grew up with Bush II and saw their country change after 9/11. Younger groups don’t understand what not living in a surveillance state is even like. It’s their normal.
I’m too busy working my 12 hour shift to afford the small house I got luckily 9 years ago…
Sidenote about local democrats— they’re disgusting. A loop up only propping up their favorite candidates, using their influence to push around elections despite being a limited amount of people many with bad takes, and intentionally they have their candidates run with hidden views so that they win on popularity alone.
Like, still do it though because there’s really only upsides to influencing them, but just ugh.
This isn’t accurate. They are also calling us lazy and saying we don’t want to work hard.
The older I get and the more I understand that boomers had literally it the easiest out of any one in history the more salty I get over them calling millennials & gen Z lazy all those years.
All you stupid oldies had to do was put like 2% of your paycheck into any index over your career and you would be rich AF right now. Which, is exactly why so many boomers are fucking loaded right now and old a historically disproportionate amount of wealth for the generation.
any one in history
I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about this and I think it’s accurate. No doubt they worked, but they live in the modern age with modern luxuries and probably the best large scale economic climate ever for a single generation. So many boomers are so financially sound it’s almost comical. RV’s fucking everywhere. 2nd homes. It’s like a slap in our faces.
I’m speaking about American boomers specifically. Especially since they seem so deadset on pulling the ladder up behind them.
Exactly. The standard QoL between 1800, 1900, and 2000 is immense. But between 1970/80/90/00/10/20 - it all feels extremely similar or even a bit worse. Cars vs Horse was a big change to out QoL, Landline vs iPhone is arguably lateral or only slightly up. And I feel the same can be said for the majority of innovations over the last 30 years… Like they’re nice sure, but they didn’t really revolutionize our QoL like the generation prior to the boomers experienced.
Bomers got it “as good as it got” up to now, but weer able to enjoy the average bull run of the last 50 years. Meanwhile younger generations are entering right as it started to taper off.
Please tell me what you are doing for the generation behind you.
Paying taxes that fund public education despite not having kids? Supporting politicians who want to make our public education system more robust and performant? Supporting politicians and policies to attempt to combat climate change? Giving money to causes related to the above even though I don’t (and will never) have kids?
Yeah, that should fix things.
I wasn’t aware that my assignment was to “fix things” on my own
It doesn’t sound like you’re getting it so I’ll spell it out. If you’re not actively thinking about or doing something for the next generation, why would you expect a boomer to have done so?
So… Contributing the bare minimum to society?
Who the hell are you to judge what they can or should be doing? They might not have the means, time, or health to do more. Get out of here with that high horse.
My bad for believing that you should pay forward what society has already done for you. I don’t care that you didn’t intend on having children. People have given far more that you benefited from as a child and the bare minimum is that you do the same.
No matter what you believe, you have benefited from policy and programs funded by taxpayers who may or may not have had any intention of benefiting you specifically.
And they just gave you ways they have given back. Get off your high horse and maybe you would see that. You don’t know that person’s spot in life. They might be doing the best they can. You’re speaking from a point of privilege to demand more.
My god you are a massive fucking asshole.
You must be a blast at the parties no one invites you to.
Cute. Projecting? Or maybe someone hurt your fee fees? I’m just some text on the Internet buddy. It’s going to be alright.
Not having kids, my bloodline ideally ends with me. At my age my mother already had me and was pregnant with a second child she couldn’t care for, I’m 26 and soon to be 27. I’m hoping I die an irrelevant, ignoble, and funny death.
In 20 years you will die when your debit card is refused at a defibrillator kiosk despite the fact that you have enough funds in your account for exactly one heart restart.
Eh I was moreso hoping I’d explode in some way.
Ok, but have you discussed this with your entire generation? You can’t do this alone.
No but I would happily butcher the children of my father so that’d count for something.
What?
I hope that’s a reference I’m not getting.
Moreso a murderous joke I’m making, I fucking HATE my father and that hatred spreads easily to his kin. Murdering them for the sake of it maybe not but if put into a situation where they are between me and him well that’s their fault at that point.
Ummm, you might need to seek professional help. Like seriously.
currently working at a non-profit for subpar wages to help zoomers and gen alpha afford college, wtf are you doing oh so “holier than thou?”
I’m just making my way through the universe, like everyone else, including boomers. My point was that people seem to think that boomers, or any generation for that matter, have a big meeting and decide to fuck up the following generations en masse. I think oligarchs are causing the problems, not 70 year olds, who had the nerve to buy a house because they could. If you were a boomer I bet you wouldn’t have done anything different, because you would not have seen the harm in it. As always the harm comes from the top, not a whole generation.
The generation behind me? I work for them?
Well some people seem to think that boomers were working for the next gen, or I guess against them.
I mean I’m voting to help them every possible chance I get. Something that appears to be anathema to the boomer generation.
Sure. There are always lots of great politicians to vote for. I can’t believe those boomers didn’t think of that.
I wash my trash, thank you very much!
To the Boomers who are chill and hate capitalism as much as we do: I’m sorry you’re getting blamed for the politicians’ actions.
To the Zoomers and other young people, particularly in
: I don’t see any reason why we’re not gonna end up in the same boat as the Boomers when we grow old. You are not unlearning the capitalist distortions passed onto you by your elders; you take defense contractor, finance, police, and military work with just as much ignorance as prior generations; you still do not oppose imperialism; and you know about climate change and Epstein and you still refuse to take up arms against capitalists and the State. (Like the Boomers, if you do not fit this description, my ire is not with you! But it is almost certainly with your friends, your family, your coworkers, and your neighbors.)Frankly, it’s gonna be just like the Boomers: the good ones are being crushed by capitalism in silence and forgotten. If you’re wondering where most of the good Boomers are, check the cemeteries. Same with Zoomers. I see it happen every day. And when we do grow old, the vast majority of us are gonna mostly be conservative weirdos with rich backgrounds who abused their way to the top in a system designed to reward only abuse, because the rest of us will have been killed off.
And for everyone: your generation is not special. Every generation has their own unique challenges, some are harder than others, but you are not somehow magically exempted from developing the same oppressive behaviors of previous generations unless and until you spend the time unlearning capitalist distortions and obliterating the systems that instill capitalist distortions.
Give Zoomers a few more years and I guaran-fucking-tee you our politicians are gonna be milquetoast neoliberals just like the rest because we haven’t actually learned a goddamn thing from our suffering, because suffering doesn’t teach you shit, and because Zoomer capitalists are still capitalists and therefore exert bourgeois class solidarity over any solidarity they might have with their generation or any other subset of the proletariat.
That is exactly the same gripe i have with most of my GenX brethren - for a generation that was defined by punk and revolt, a surprisingly large amount of them ditched the things their generation stood for to make sure they have a good place in the rat race. I know that many did not have a lot of choices because the boomers clinge to the levers of power to this day, but to take part in their system that so many of us despised is akin to being a traitor.
And especially in the US the younger generations are more than willing to carry on the torch, radicalized by their civic religion and evangelism. Other countries are not immune, but they generally have a better understanding that what the US are doing is problematic.
I still blame the boomers. Their greed and powerlust have fucked up the planet and is still fucking up societies.
Some of the boomers were the hippies that made a big stink about ‘Nam. And the environment. Much as I think the boomer generation were spoiled kids that spent their lives grabbing money from generations before and after them, a significant part was not and will never be, and imho that goes for any generation. It’s amazing how many young people voted for Trump or Afd, for example.
When I say the it’s the boomers fault I mostly mean the ones in power. Ofc the avg boomer isn’t malicious, but selling their house (to a corp) they got for pennies so they can throw money into a slot machine instead of leaving it for family is a huge issue I’ve seen from boomers in my area.
Yet your use of language regurgitates deliberately constructed ageism propaganda. So perhaps be more mindful of how you use it in the future, so as not to uncritically repeat their propaganda and deflect from actual meaningful class war?
They vote for these people because of (social) media manipulation - you get one guess who the people behind this manipulation are.
The manosphere got to gen Z, they will not get them again
Look at the boomers too, sexual revolution, anti war hippies, now a disturbing number spend their time terrorizing people on hoa boards. I’m determined to not end up a monster like this.
Only a small % of boomers were hippies but they were able to have a huge impact on society. Many boomers were normies that haven’t changed that much in their life.
That explains a lot. My parents were hippies and so where their friends, I assumed it was most of their generation. They had a huge impact, as you said.
Yeah, nah. None of us have houses and most are in the same position I’m in: I will have to work until I die. There’s no retirement in my future. If anything I’ll just be moving further left as I get older.
A big part of the reason that boomers are so awful is that they own all the houses and made sure their pet politicians made the value keep going up over time by limiting the amount of housing being built.
Our circumstances are so drastically different from the boomers that there’s just no way we’re going to be just like them. I do agree that we have to be mindful of the warnings you’re mentioning, but I don’t think it’s even possible to follow in their footsteps. They did a thorough job pulling the ladder up.
Yeah, nah. None of us have houses and most are in the same position I’m in: I will have to work until I die. There’s no retirement in my future.
Me too lol, I’m a Zillenial.
As I have said to others: just because we suffer doesn’t mean we learn anything from our suffering. Give us a few years to turn 35 and you will see capitalists our age pulling up the ladder just like our parents did, although we’ll probably do it using pseudo-inclusive language and pseudo-therapy speak.
If anything I’ll just be moving further left as I get older.
Yeah me too, and I absolutely believe you, but we’re leftists in a leftist space. The rest of our cohort are not like us yet. In particular, we need to teach our cohort a class conscious analysis of the world, and make this proletarian class conscious position unignorable by the capitalist class.
Yeah, nah. None of us have houses
That is not true though and it is exactly the point: The rich ones born of rich parents definitely do have houses. You are completely overlooking the class aspect in favour of nonsensical ageism.
Riiiiight. The teeny tiny percentage of the younger generations who end up with houses will be super impactful in future elections, lol.
this is so optimistic we will be dead
I mean I get what you’re saying. Economic desperation could drive us to being greedy ladder puller uppers just like the boomers.
I don’t know. Maybe. I know that I’m in my 40s and only becoming more liberal and more likely to vote to help others. And that kind of voting mentality could lead to stripping power from the ultra wealthy and clawing back some power for the middle class.
I’m not getting the impression that millennials and younger are going to be greedy on the epic scale boomers have been.
I don’t see any reason why we’re not gonna end up in the same boat as the Boomers when we grow old.
There’s a variety of very well documented reasons.
I can’t be bothered enumerating everything you’re ignoring to make that statement but very briefly, the next 50 years will not be as prosperous as the last 50 years as Milennials and Gen X clean up the mess left by boomers.
I think you stopped reading where you quoted me. I am absolutely not denying that things are bad for Zoomers or even that the vast majority of us are fucked…but the ones who survive are less likely to consider themselves victims of capitalism.
Like if we don’t learn to turn our criticism inwards, and we don’t fight against the system so at least more anti-capitalists and victims of capitalism survive into old age…we’re just gonna end up reproducing “Boomer” abuses. Yes things are worse for us, but we’re so fucking callous, just as callous as the people who raised us, just as uncritical and ignorant as the people who raised us, that we’re on track to reproduce all their bullshit as a group.
Just because you suffer doesn’t mean you learn. As a corollary, just because you suffer more doesn’t mean you learn more. Zoomers are suffering without learning. Lots of Boomers also suffered, and many were killed by capitalism in silence. You’re dealing with a subset of Boomers who is increasingly likely not to feel like victims of capitalism.
I guarantee you, wait for Zoomers to turn 35 and you’ll see our true colors. It’s gonna be more capitalist politicians, the same old neoliberalism perhaps with a new coat of paint, same old imperialism (looking at you DSA!), same old
ruining the world for everyone else. We’re not fucking special. Look at our non-reaction (as a collective!) to Epstein; look at how we still work for these monsters, still pay taxes to these monsters, still door-knock for these monsters’ politicians, still fight in these monsters’ wars, still join these monsters’ police departments. We’re just as capable of being monsters as our parents, and just like in the past, the system will reward the most abusive among us.
I know about a half dozen younger people who voted for Trump, believing him to actually be the Senator Armstrong-type person the meme war made him out to be.
No, you’re right. He landslided the 20-30 age range that year because he went on their shows and focused on them
If by landslided you mean not even close to a landslide and that he lost that demographic, yeah sure
I guess you’re right. We made such a hullabaloo about young podcast listeners leaning right I suppose that I lost the point.
The chart shows a lot of people from all ages who switched or just didn’t turn out
Edit: should have linked the source on this random chart I pulled out my ass https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/voting-patterns-in-the-2024-election/pp-2025-6-26_validated-voters_2-02/
It looks like the only age group that didn’t increase support for Trump in 2024 compared to 2016 was 65+.
Am I reading that right?
You are correct. Which would make the only group who didn’t sell us out the literal actual boomers. Well, not more than usual anyway
Ageist shit from a bigoted idiot.
Heh hehhhh do more about it. It made me feel really good
In my experience Boomers are basically all cemented in their position, for example the single most feral leftie I’ve ever met was an old ass biker boomer who apparently hung out with the black Panthers as a teen and basically wanted to murder ever president since Johnson. Meanwhile I’ve never met a rightwing boomer who could have their mind changed regardless of whatever logic chain you use, I’ve had more conductive arguments with neo-nazis since at least they try to argue rather than effectively just going nuh-uh.
Wow incredible chart there big guy! You’re so worldly.
Yah babe you can do mental math about it while we fuckkkkkk
Naomi Klein is a shitty liberal author.
To be fair, whoever plotted the X axis of the chart did their very best to make it as unintuitive as possible.
You must mean social media grandpa.
Actually we were just talking about this further down. Somebody called me on my shit and it turns out +65 or older voted exactly the same as in 2020. From other age groups many switched sides to Maga except 18-30 who voted Maga instead of staying home like usual
You getting called out is a daily occurrence eh?
Yeah, buddy that’s life. Some of us are pretty adjusted to it. You’re taking it extra well though 😉
Oh no, are you losing the freakazoid shit because you’re tired? Why aren’t you writing some long-winded self report about how you hate women?
I’ll say literally anything to keep you replying to my posts. You’re doing smashing PR for me and I kind of like wearing you around like a cocksleeve.
You should be more timely though, you’re missing the initial rush of traffic every time
