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    oh boy this comic that calls BlueMAGA Hitlers when pushed sure has a lot of BlueMAGA who become Hitlers when posting here

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      They literally admit to voting for genocide because in some weird dimension it’s less genocide than if the republicans did it. Your brain on liberalism. Gross

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      The funniest part is that it doesn’t even mention the democratic party. It could just as well have been about all those republican chuds who say they’re apolitical, but these nazi lemmitors just cant help telling on themselves

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      A wave of “what’s the deal with those commies? I was banned simply for having a dissenting opinion” posts incoming.

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      < insert joke about getting asked questions about voting for a Blue Genocide being answered by a shirt that says I voted for a Blue Genocide >

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    I am willing to rank democrats last with my transferable vote. Are democrats interested in getting this vote?

    Shouldn’t democrats be doing everything they can to get every vote they can in this self proclaimed existential crisis?

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        Ah, yes. The pool of voters who are both:

        A) So big, as be able to swing elections

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        B) So small, as to not be worth catering to

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        A politicians job is to appeal to voters, they lose if they fail to do this.
        Either my vote is important enough that you can cry about me costing you the election, in which case you should be mad at the democratic party for fumbling the easiest win; or my vote does not matter - in which case what are you mad about?

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        But if it was my refusal that cost the democrats the last election like you all say, then that’s exactly what I am.

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    I see a lot of “leftists don’t even care about Palestinians! They just secretly want trump to win! Who cares about a couple people on the other side of the planet? Vote blue no matter who!” on .world and its truly sickening watching these right wing chuds do their vice signalling so they can keep getting their treats.

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    Gang, this isn’t complicated. We have a de facto two party system. On election day your choices are: A. Evil, B. Lesser Evil, or C. Don’t vote / wasted vote. That’s the way the system works. Systems can change. If you don’t like the existing system, work to change it instead of just showing up on election day to make a futile gesture. Alaska this year might be a prime opportunity to get wider support for ranked choice voting if played right. You can also show up for primary season to get the Lesser Evil even less evil.

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      It’s de facto only because people like you keep perpetuating it. And election after election the ‘lesser evil’ keeps getting more and more evil, to keep up with the Republicans. Until now, where even a moderate Democrat is further right than a Republican would have been 30 years ago. Are you incapable of understanding that doing the same thing over and over long term just continues to perpetuate the same cycle of shifting the window further and further right? The more you prove you’re willing to settle for the lesser evil, the more evil you’re gonna end up with. How do you people consistently not learn that your strategy is a losing one and you’re making the exact fallacious choice that the corporate handlers who don’t care about party politics want you to make.

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      No, you don’t get how elections work. If they can support genocide and ICE and building the wall and, and, and… but because they are more competent and polite than Trump, they are lesser evil. And they should be able to take votes for granted for everyone that isn’t “moderate Republicans” and those are the only ones that they should appeal to, everyone else is just expected to have blind loyalty to the Party in terms of “vote blue no matter who” then they have no incentive at all not to just make every evil the Republicans do bipartisan and just keep moving right and enabling the Republicans like they have done for the last 30 years, at least. If there is supposed to be nothing they should lose my vote for, there is nothing they wont do.

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      Bro do you not understand basic logic after years and years of voting lesser evil you will still end up with straight up evil, never actually fixing root problems just pushing them off until tomorrow. Unless you have the brain of an earthworm no one takes “lesser evil” rhetoric seriously anymore. That shit is stupid.

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      We also have “Not voting for either evil, and vote for a third party”, but then the Democrats wouldn’t be able to vote for bombing other countries, and they couldn’t stand that.

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    This post is just a circlejerk to make you (the community in general) feel better. It’s not centrist or far-right to reasonably think third parties have little chance in national elections. Start with your local elections and get progessives in or even run yourself if you care so much.

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      It’s not centrist or far-right to reasonably think third parties have little chance in national elections

      I believe they’re talking about the genocide.

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      It’s not centrist or far-right to reasonably think third parties have little chance in national elections.

      Sure, but I don’t fight against the Hitlers because I think I’m going to win. I fight against Hitlers because they are both fucking evil.

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      Imagine getting this triggered over a comic calling some undefined person similar to Hitler. What a way to tell on yourself

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      We believe in organizing as the primary means of achieving change, voting is just a very small part of what we do, but if these politicians want our votes shouldn’t they appeal to us? Our comrades in the US have a simple demand, no more genocide, no more wars, you don’t give us that much, you don’t get our vote. Or, if we’re so insignificant we can be ignored, then don’t removed about us not voting for you when you lose. Either way, it seems like being 99% hitler as opposed to 100% hitler isn’t good enough to win elections anymore, and that’s a good thing.

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        Absolutely. That’s why I include voting in primaries. I’d rather us have 0% hitler. But when the two choices (in practice) are 100% hitler and 99% hitler, I’d still prefer to have 1% less hitler. And it shouldn’t mark someone as 100% hitler to feel that way.

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          So you’d vote for genocide as long as the other guy was gonna do 2 genocides?

          And you don’t see the problem with this?

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            Can you read? I clearly said that I’d rather have 0% hitler. You, and everyone else, has provided no solution to bringing in the zero genocides guy. Until then, this all just validates my point of: this post is a circlejerk to make you feel better.

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                “Overthrow your government” and “simply have a better government” are not solutions. They’re wishes. Nothing resembles a concrete plan to make an actual change. My statement stands.

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                  You know most governments get overthrown? Like on a long enough timeline it’s basically inevitable. America is due for a hard reset. You know you still allow slavery as punishment for a crime?

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                  Lmao. They’re only wishes because there’s no way to do them without any effort. Voting is the only acceptable pathway to y’all because you don’t actually have to do anything.

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              Can you read? Overthrow your fascist pedophilic rapist terrorist colonizer owners, lol.

              Oh wait the treat supply is still too good to fucking go outside.

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            Voting to stop 1 genocide is a problem? Impact > Intent. If the intent of your vote is to punish some person or party and the impact of that choice is worse, that’s a problem.

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              Okay, next round it’s 2 genocides or 3 genocides. You don’t want to let an extra genocide happen, right? Better support the lesser evil!

              Next round is 3 genocides vs 4 genocides

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                This changes nothing. When you have the choice to prevent 1 genocide or not prevent it at all, what would you do?

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                  This changes everything. When a broken, antihuman ideology and the unstoppable march of time put you on a trajectory of becoming more identical to the nazis with every passing day, what do you do?

                  Do you face the ugly truth that a bunch of rich pedophiles lied to you as a child about how our world works and used your cooperation to pursue their own agenda, and move forward from there? Or do you retreat into denial, back into the cycle of the addict to delay contact with the cold metal of reality? We, communists, aren’t your enemy. We’re you from the future, and we’re running out of time to bring you to your senses. While you line up to vote for 99% Hitler, both parties shake hands to build a camp for you.

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                My country isn’t ethical. I don’t even need to think about that. Still not going to use my vote to let MORE genocide happen.

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                  Still not going to use my vote to let MORE genocide happen.

                  • Goes on to vote for more genocide, but is proud that it’s a Blue genocide
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                  Yeah that’s obviously not in question. It’s unethical to continue to support the country and not start burning it all down lol.

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          “If we’re going to have Hitler, I’d rather the Hitler that preserves the long term stability and power of the Reich”

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          It still shows a complete lack of solidarity with the rest of marginalized people, including those being ethnically cleansed inside the US, and to those being bombed, droned, sanctioned, starved, etc abroad. Sanders is a liberal Zionist, AOC is pro-imperialism in Latin America, and even Mamdani conceded a lot of nonsense to the right, even agreeing with gusanos that Cuba and Venezuela are dictatorships, doing his part in normalizing the atrocities we see now there by the US government. Mamdani is the best of the bunch by far and he’s still bad to us.

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          Trolley-problem-ass poster. So fucking embarrassing.

          For everyone else, dialectical materialism.

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      I do not consider someone Hitler for disagreeing with me, I consider them to be akin to Hitler if they: Support things like: genocide; concentration camps; expansion of the police state; mass surveillance; imperialism; persecution of minorities; the MIC; the slavery complex; and similar causes.

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        The libs have reached the place where the conservatives were like eight years ago, they’ve finally reached "You loony leftists will call anyone a nazi just for having a difference of opinion.

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        So basically anyone who works in the United States is Hitler?

        Because by working you literally support those things.

        I am being somewhat facetious. Y’all are just being self righteous with this spam kind of post. Virtue signaling nonsense to make yourself feel better.

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            Straw man nonsense.

            I didn’t say we shouldn’t improve things I said this post is at best a circle jerk. Y’all are more alike to the Nazis than you think.

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              Who is “y’all”. That’s quite the generalisation to make when making such a major accusation.

              Anyway this entire conversation is idiotic. When talking about supportting certain things, unavoidable support like being born in a place and thus having to pay taxes was obviously not what was being discussed.

              You should probably do some introspection rather than continuing to lash out.

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              I said this post is at best a circle jerk.

              You actually also didnt say that. I think you need to go to the doctor, youre hallucinating

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                I get it I’m like an upvote factory, I enjoy the retorts friend. Enjoy the free dopamine.

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                  If you don’t want to get dunked on for writing stupid shit , then don’t write stupid shit. If you don’t want to get dunked on by way of semantic pedantry, then don’t be a semantic pedant. And consider changing your username, since you suck at banter

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                By gradually normalizing radical hatred and exclusion through repetition and emotional appeals.

                Not everyone who disagrees with you is equivalent to the most evil man on earth.

                I am probably more left than you are, this shit is bad for any movement you support.

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                  I am probably more left than you are

                  Minus your political support for the torture and extermination of Arabs, of course

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                  By gradually normalizing radical hatred and exclusion through repetition and emotional appeals.

                  It’s okay to hate the people who are doing genocide and slavery and want to kill me, actually, lol.

                  Not everyone who disagrees with you is equivalent to the most evil man on earth.

                  I couldn’t agree more unless they are promoting genocidal rhetoric, policies, or politicians.

                  I am probably more left than you are

                  Do you think that the workers should own the means of production?

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                  Hey Nazi sympathizer…

                  Just because people don’t want to spend time with you because you’re, well… A Nazi sympathizer, doesn’t mean that excluding people like you from society is a bad thing.

                  In fact, it is our duty as a society to exclude people like you from society by any means necessary. It just must suck for you that it means people call you things like “Nazi sympathizer” and don’t invite you to parties.

                  You must be very lonely in your life. And that genuinely makes me happy. Maybe you should reflect on your belief system and how you wanting people like me to not have rights is what is alienating you from others.

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                  Not everyone who disagrees with you is equivalent to the most evil man on earth.

                  Funny, I seem to recall someone spelling out specifically what the disagreement would have to be about in order to be compared to Hitler, yet here you are saying its everyone. One might come to the conclusion you’re an idiot or you can’t read or that you might not have a functional memory - Like some sort of bot. What else could the explanation be?

                  I am probably more left than you are, this shit is bad for any movement you support.

                  I support the “don’t commit a genocide” movement. Keeping genociders out of the movement is a positive. If you support genociders, then you are not leftist.

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                  You could have just told us you can’t read instead of wasting everyones time with this (I assume dictated) drivel

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          Anyone currently working for the US military or one of its contractors is either complicit in or actively committing genocide, yeah. That’s not an outrageous thing to believe. One of the only modern American soldiers I can respect is Aaron Bushnell, the air force member who martyred himself in front of the Zionist Entity’s embassy in 2024. That’s the minimum level of awareness I would expect out of anyone participating in Amerikkkan empire.

          Anyone of a normal political ideology would seek to make the United States extinct. It’s a country administered by clownish nazi pedophiles and doesn’t deserve to be defended.

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            Agreed but you don’t go far enough. Every company in America pays taxes and supports it. Don’t try and absolve yourself by narrowing the scope. Even if you work at mom and pops card trading store you are supporting the machine.

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              Yeah which is why I’m politically active in the hopes of dismantling the machine. I do what I can in spite of me being an Amerikkkan. However if someday a group of Maoist third-worlders were to suddenly take power and deemed me an imperialist or something, I would probably ask for leniency but I’d spiritually understand if they would rather execute me. Like I’m imagining being lined up against the brick wall and being asked if I have any last words and it would probably be like “damn y’all are cool.” My dream would finally have come true: a society where a person like me is executed for being a reactionary.

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          Found the right-wing dipshit who calls himself a ‘centist’ because his friends don’t reply to his texts anymore if he calls himself right-wing.

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            Sick ad hominem bro but that’s not on the mark, or maybe it is? Why not focus on the argument itself?

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              I am begging you people to stop saying words you do not understand. Thats not an ad hominem dumbass. They do not dismiss your argument or tie any quality of character to it, they’re just insulting you.

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                Yes they did. And it’s still virtue signaling nonsense. Just because you made it on paint with shapes doesn’t mean it’s not slop.

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                  No they fucking didn’t. Being ingnorant is fine, what makes you fucking loathsome is the arrogant assumption you’re right about things you know nothing about

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                  They do not touch on your argument at all. I am becoming worried for your increasing rate of hallucinations. Consider going outside and decompressing until you are in a calmer emotional state where you can handle people disagreeing with you

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              I wish you Reddit losers would actually learn what “ad-hominem” means rather than treating it like a magical debate incantation.

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              The argument is that people like you and the person on the left in the comic hide your true beliefs because you know they are vehemently unpopular among pretty much anyone with any sort of decency or a soul. You know what you believe, like trans people shouldn’t get healthcare, immigrants are evil, and the capitalist class should rule. Yet you bury that because if it ever came out to people around you because they would isolate you faster than you could understand.

              We all know the argument. You just don’t realize you are the argument.

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                Wrong.

                You don’t know me. I’m actually some of those things you think I hate. You’re just being cruel becuase you thought I made myself a free target for you. I literally disagree with everything you said.

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              Its not, you just decided it was about you and got mad.

              Quite telling, considering the post is about people who claim not to be similar to Hitler only to show themselves to share his sympathies.

              Anyway you could tell me your name, adress, SSN, mothers maiden name and the numbers on your credit card

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            It’s virtue signaling because it’s a low bar. This is ridiculous right now.

            You’re dunking on a 3 foot basket.

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              You’re dunking on a 3 foot basket.

              Right wing educated idiots makes dunking on 3ft baskets really easy. You basically put the ball in the basket for us.

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                I’m telling you that the person in the comic doesn’t exist not that I agree with him. Don’t crash out on me becuase you can’t read dude.

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            Non-americans and criminals pay american taxes too, but don’t get to participate in the ritualistic choosing of which flavor boot steps on their neck. Checkmate. 🤓

            (Idk this was a lot funnier in my head as a half baked idea, I can’t compete with this quality meme lol)

            Edit: I got it! Thank you for letting me be both an american war criminal and a canadian war criminal 🙏

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            Facetious is an adjective that means treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humor, flippancy, or lightheartedness, or saying something that is not meant to be taken seriously or literally.

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        so you are against both the American Nazi party (it actually exists and Republicans fund then) as well as the Israeli supporters?

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              orrrrrrr… you could stop supporting the imperialists and genocidists. But then you wouldn’t be represented in the meme.

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              so vote blue till all red are gone.

              “Just keep doing the same thing that hasn’t worked for 200 years”

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              My issue with the republican party is not their choice of party color, but their policies. Therefore I have exactly the same issues with the democratic party. Further entrenching it is the worst thing I could do. Especially when the democratic party is also helping the republican party.

              Voting unconditionally for any party is high up on the list of “worst political moves” as well, so I’m definitely not going to do that.

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                no one will vote for the extreme leftist parties. but if we vote for democrats who are in reality moderates, we can at least keep the worst of the rapists, pedophiles, nazis, and Israeli puppets out of government. then we can work on getting rid of democrats.

                Republicans (red) are a united party while leftist groups are split between democrats (blue) and true leftists (green). this gives power to Republicans.

                If you are too blind to see that… your vote for a party that cannot win in the short term… is just really a vote for nazis, pedophiles, rapists, and genocide lovers.

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                  Are you too stupid to understand a self perpetuating system? Nobody votes for the leftist parties (except the people that do) because of people like you. If you voted for the leftist parties and stopped screaming about how anyone who does is a traitor because they’re not supporting the corporate ghoul of the hour then maybe the system would change eventually. I’ve seen this happen in so many elections. If the same people who were saying this shit back in 2004 had just voted for the candidate with the actual best policies and not whoever was ‘blue’ then maybe politics wouldn’t still be a race to the bottom where the Overton window just shifts as far right as possible every election season.

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                  Okay, I decided to give you another chance and came back to read the rest

                  but if we vote for democrats who are in reality moderates

                  wow, you’re the meme. I am afraid of getting an aneurysm from reading the rest of your fascist doublethink “genocide is moderate we have to vote for the democrats so we can get rid of the extreme republicans because they’re doing genocide” line of argument.

                  Republicans (red) are a united party while leftist groups are split between democrats (blue) and true leftists (green). this gives power to Republicans.

                  Well, again, (you really seem to struggle with reading what I write, I have to repeat myself quite a lot. Are you okay? Do you have a trusted adult or some sort of DNC botfarm handler you can talk to?), my issue with the republicans is not that they are republican it is their policies, which are similar to the democrats, so one party or the other in power is the same to me. The less power I can give them the better, so I won’t vote for either.

                  your vote for a party that cannot win in the short term… is just really a vote for nazis, pedophiles, rapists, and genocide lovers.

                  By your logic a vote for the dems is a vote for the republicans. My vote is apparently what makes the difference between the democrats winning or losing. I will not vote for them. With you knowing that, you voting for democrats is just another vote for republicans, since the democrats won’t win.

                  Furthermore you seem to be stuck in a weird limbo, oscillating between short and long term thinking - depending on what most benefits your rhetorical position. Voting third party is bad because they won’t win in the short term. We have to vote for democrats, even though that means accepting genocidal fascism in the short torm, due to some undefined long term goal.

                  If I have to accept the unacceptable (genocide) in the short term anyway, I might as well go for an actually cogent long-term plan that hasn’t been shown to fail - which “vote for the democrats and push them left” and “vote for the democrats AND THEN organize” have been shown to do. Following your strategy we’ve come to a place where, according to you, not committing a genocide is seen as an “extreme leftist position”. Seems like a pretty shit strategy.

                  I’m going to invest my resources (and my votes) with an actually principled leftist party and use elections as a means of building momentum, while understanding the electoral system is inherently flawed.

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                  Blah blah blah you think “dont commit genocide” is an extreme leftist position, so I won’t waste my time reading the rest of your wordsalad

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                  “exterminating entire races is actually moderate”

                  your vote for a party that cannot win in the short term… is just really a vote for nazis, pedophiles, rapists, and genocide lovers.

                  Kamala couldn’t win in the short term, so if you voted for her, you voted for nazis, pedophiles, rapists, and genocide lovers.

                  Though it’s fucking stupid to say that not voting for nazis, pedophiles, rapists, and genocide lovers is actually voting for them, but literally voting for them in the form of democrats isn’t.

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              These dudes are pretending they are andor and think that replying their drivel to us is like saving the rebellion. All this while they sit at home on the computer.

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                You know America is the empire in any Star wars analogy? Food for thought!

                I haven’t seen your shitty star wars show btw, the entire franchise can be explained as: two and a half good movies.

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              I’m not the guy you asked the question to. The answer is fuck both, and the entire country too, lol. In the country’s 250 year history you were only able to keep yourselves from not engaging in war for 20 years.

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                I’m pretty sure 20 years is an overestimate, and more than half of those years the USA was engaged in violent racialized slavery and indigenous genocide.

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              but your response tells me all I need to know about you.

              Go back to Reddit you insufferable fucking dork