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    The em dash thing annoys me because I actually used em dashes a lot in my own writing. Now I’ve had to change how I write to keep people from assuming I’m using generative tools for writing.

    In the plus side, our mayor loves my writing style because he thinks staff should be using AI for everything.

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      I’ve just been using en dashes this entire time, was once accused of being a bot because I used them, and as a result I found out that I was using dashes improperly — and should instead use em dashes.

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      I used to like the punch of “It’s not just ___, it’s ___” but I’ve pretty much removed that from my vocabulary.

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    maybe people have now see the em dash in use enough that they’re observing it’s greatness in real usage!!!

    /s

    -f pour one out for the em-dash, it’s reputation has been tarnished

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    As someone that uses AI at work because 1. this is a run-out-the-clock situation, and 2. I don’t give a fuck and would like to be at my desk as little as possible, it feels weird and hypocritical to expect no AI in all of the software around me as well.

    With that said, if I still had any semblance of passion for writing code, which I do not, anything I worked on for the OSS community would be fully devoid of AI usage. But I’m mentally at a point where I’d rather move to a cabin and use computers less and less with each passing day.

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      No, coding should be done to garner clout, so eventually when I start my shitcoin, I can rugpull more people! /j

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      I don’t give a fuck and would like to be at my desk as little as possible

      I always had this stance and found it weird when people resisted. Your boss’s boss’s boss’s boss is telling you to work half as much? Whether you think that the output is half as good quality or not why the fuck aren’t you JUMPING at the chance to do that.

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        It’s coming after your job. Why would I want to feed my output into the machine breathing down the back of all our necks? I like what I do. A carpenter isn’t going to be happy working in a factory where chairs are made by robot arms. I’m not gonna be happy working in a slop factory

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        I can’t use AI in my job, because I manufacture.

        But the HR lady can use it to make policies that are fucking stupid and my direct boss can use it to create an app to more effectively micromanage us without having to actually do the micromanaging himself so he has free time to blow his boss and cook breakfast for 30min on the clock every day.

        So yeah I’m not a fan.

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      It’s valid to feel that way working in software, but try to hold space also for the fact that computing is ‘the means of production’ in the information age, and how it is made and who controls it is inherently political.

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    What is the accelerating rise of m-dashes from approximately 2014-2019 about? That trend apparently continued until very recently, even slowed down a bit, before exploding at some point in 2025 or 2026 for obvious reasons.

    Does anyone have a theory?

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      People slowly learned to use their keyboards for proper typography?

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      If the graph is not just using made up data, then it also measures absolute em-dashes, not em-dash density, so possibly could be an increase in interest in contributing to the kernel?

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        By a factor of roughly 10-fold? Maybe. It could indeed be a measure of overal absolute contribution. But post 2025 that could be influenced by m-dash density especially.

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          No, the comment I responded to was about the ~2014 uptick, not the recent one.

          The recent one is obviously AI one way or another. Absolute contribution rate is higher due to AI as well.

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            Yeah sure, no I am not surprised about post 2025. My question was indeed about the post 2014 uptick.

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    Emdashes on this chart are the Jaws theme of vibeshittification.

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    (Ftr; you’d also see this sort of thing if a new cohort, say ESL speakers from a particular country, was suddenly able to contribute when they couldn’t before.)

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    Man, I miss when Linux felt like a refuge. It’s always been flawed of course but now it feels like everyone in positions of influence are embracing the awful

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      And I remember the days when barely any hardware could run Linux. When lots of the interfaces looked like absolute shit and needed a mountain of configuration to even get running. Without commercial support Linux would have never gotten anywhere near the general purpose OS it is today. If you want a pure hobbyist OS run FreeBSD. If you haven’t moved over there, I’m pretty sure you’re just being a hypocrite.

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      It’s getting harder to justify the inconvenience of going off the beaten path if that path is turning into the same slop as the commercial ones.

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          True, and for most things you get a choice, in contrast to Windows/MacOS. But if the kernel itself slides down this path there’s not a lot you can do unless you’re willing to sacrifice enormous amounts of time and effort.

          I’m kind of done with this passion, I’ll be investing more of my time into yard maintenance and my boat.

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    As an actual human who uses em dashes — or usually, two or three hyphens that turn into an em dash in Markdown — I feel personally attacked.

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    Important software that caught buggy code from Linus at review stage? Riight, we are all gonna die, sure

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    People are so silly. 700 em dashes… Linux is a big project with contributors from all over the world. People probably use LLMs to redact comments when English is not their native language. And yes, people are using LLMs to help them with submissions but there’s 0 proof that any code made it to the kernel without being reviewed properly. This allergy to anything LLM related makes you all look like vegans - a lot of posturing that has 0 real impact. If you’re so disgusted by AI and can’t tell the difference between AI slop and AI assisted code just stop using computers because there’s no way you will be able to do anything without touching AI in one way or another.

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      What’s with the stupid comparison with the vegans? Vegans have non zero impact towards environment sustainability and their posturing is entirely valid, more so now, given the state of the world.

      Your phrasing tells a lot more about your mindset though. A lot of words, 0 substance.

      -signed, a non-vegan with a lot respect for vegans

      P.S. I am also not against LLM assistance, but also know AI-bros are not to be trusted. With all the money pouring in and so much slop being pushed onto everyone, they will cash out one way or the other. And who’s going to be left holding the bag of all the chaos they’ve caused?

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        Vegans have non zero impact towards environment sustainability

        Not eating meat or eating less meat has non zero impact. Bragging about being vegan and avoiding things like honey does not.

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          Effectively nobody “brags” about being vegan. It’s not a stretch to conceive that those who have become vegan due to ethical or climate based concerns might have some motivation to be vocal and convince others to go vegan. The most profound way a person can have an impact on the environment/animal welfare after becoming a vegan is to convince another person to become a vegan.

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            I know plenty of vegans that will not eat anything “contaminated” with animal products, no matter how those were sources. I also know people who simply avoid animal products. There’s a big difference. Simply limiting consumption of animal products as much possible is normal thing people do out of ethical and environmental concerts. Refusing to eat already prepared dish because it has some animal based ingredient is simply wasteful. Same with LLMs. There’s a difference between AI slop and LLM assisted coding. People who refuse to see the difference are as annoying as overzealous vegans.

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              If youre interested in context:

              After avoiding meat for enough years, contamination with corpses of dead animals or their fluids* becomes very unpalatable.

              That might be hard to conceive for a person who views it as tasty food rather than body parts, but so it goes.

              I surprised myself recently when i accidentally ordered a chicken burger at a drive through. Nobody would have known if id eaten it. it was already prepared/dead/whatever.

              I couldn’t do it. While logically i know its edible, it registered akin to eating bugs or something. So i went without lunch

              * ‘dramatic’ vegan language used for clarity on how this is perceived when no longer ‘food’.

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                I find it hard to believe that people will dislike the taste of every possible animal product from every kind of meat to honey, milk, cheese and medicine derived from animals.

                When someone starts viewing food commonly consumed by billions of people in the world and forming part of human diet for thousands of years as disgusting body parts it’s more of psychological issue than a matter of something being unpalatable.

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      But also Linus Torvald’s position on LLMs is that they’re just another tool, and that there’s no reason to arbitrarily exclude them from your toolkit, no? Not saying I agree with him, but I do think this is his position, and I feel like it would affect how people work on the linux kernel.

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      Yep, I cloned the git repo and wrote a script to step through commits a week at a time and count the total em dashes in the repo at each point in time

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      git grep -I '—' master | wc -l

      just did a quick check, my graph looks similar.

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    I’ve been using linux for 18 years, but since reviewing the Open Slopware list I’ve been making a lot of changes.

    FreeBSD ticks almost every box I need it to. It runs Plasma, it runs Steam/Proton (through a thin compatibility layer that enables a lot of other linux software), it can be set up immutably and has superior containerization natively via jails. It even supports XDG compliance.

    But there is no support for changing voltage or clock rate on any amd gpu (maybe any gpu at all) and no driver support for my newer amd gpu at all.

    It honestly feels like how linux used to feel back in the day 😅

    I don’t think I’m gonna jump ship just yet. The recent ai code fiasco that happened in the linux kernel (race condition, regression, vacation) was averted by the team of talented human developers who reviewed Linus’ code. I am choosing to have faith that it will be ok for a while… given there are few alternatives.

    That being said, I think I might finally be ready to hop on the fuck-sysyemd train. I was able to look past the megalomaniacal tendencies of the dev because the tools were so convenient, but the AI PRs and code review pushes me over the edge. I am gonna configure a daily driver in Artix soon.

    Edit: I should note, FreeBSD also has some AI code issues. But the linux-libre kernel might not. Something like Hyperbola (GNU/Linux-libre) might be more appropriate for someone who is trying to avoid ai code strictly.

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      I recommend you looking at RedoxOS. It’s still not stable, but it’s evolving fast and has an anti-AI instance. Also it’s insanely efficient and optimized.

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      Last I tried, BSD didn’t like the WiFi on my laptop, so it’s currently a no-go for me.

      Gonna survive on Linux for now, but at least I know I have a potential refuge elsewhere.

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      can you elaborate on the recent fiasco you mentioned? I totally missed the news on that

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        Linus admitted he uses LLMs sometimes, so now the most trustworthy developer in the history of computers is now being shat on and raged about by people who probably couldn’t write a hello world app in any programming language. They’re just parroting the idea that Linux is vibecoded now, but it isn’t, and if anything they should be heartened by the recent decision to raise the bar for kernel contributors. Instead, they’re pretending Linus and other contributors aren’t trustworthy at all, based solely on a desire to feel outrage. When people correct them on these lies they’re spreading, no one ever admits they are wrong and stops spreading it, they just don’t respond to comments like that and continue writing them elsewhere.

        Tldr; people are stupid.

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          Race conditions are not unusual, and it was caught during review, so there’s really no problem here.

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            This is why dictionaries list more than 1 definition and you shouldn’t stop at the first one:

            1. weak; inadequate; unsatisfactory; clumsy.

            a lame excuse.

            1. Slang: Sometimes Disparaging and Offensive. awkward, dull, stupid, or uninteresting.
            1. Slang: Sometimes Disparaging and Offensive. out of touch with modern fads or trends; unsophisticated.

            https://www.dictionary.com/browse/lame

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            People who write this dictionary should listen to the public more maybe. Lame doesn’t mean what you wrote for at least 25 years.

        • This was caught during review, so nothing was “introduced” quite yet. And there’s no indication that Linus wouldn’t have produced a race condition (a notoriously more easy to miss kind of bug) without the use of AI tools.

          It’s only being exaggerated so much because he used AI.

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              That is something I am surprisingly okay with. Quickly figuring out if something is feasible is good, and doing it in a back of the napkin style is the norm, even without LLMs. Of course then you need to do it properly, without falling into the trap of reimplementing the slop.

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              People are welcome to stop spreading the falsehoods. In every thread where this is said (including this one), the truth is pointed out but those spreading it couldn’t care less. Just scroll. Others are pointing out the details here just like every other place.