I know we have our complaints about the browser, but I liked this one :)
Maybe questionably truthful.
But at this point, I’d settle for a not-Cyberpunk future. The prospect of a total Chrome monopoly horrifies me, hence I’m all for this ad.
The internet I loved was a library. The internet now is a store.
And you’re the product
It’s a great ad! Sadly the underlying message is simply not true. Regardless of the browser you use (and I do use firefox) the old internet is no longer there. Now it’s just four apps full of brain dead content. It’s quite sad actually. Loved the video though, it made me smile :_)
The old internet is still around. It just doesn’t show very high on most search engines because of SEO bullshittery
I started blocking sites like Facebook, Amazon, Instagram and every AI slop in my search results and it made everything so much better.
It’s still there, folks have just gotten so used to using those same four shit apps that they forgot how to surf the web.
Check out my Myspace page, while you’re there you can find me on Digg and google video! /s
I used to read a lot of comics on the internet, pretty sure I hit mid to high 60s of bookmarks. 80% of them no longer exist.
Even the newer sites for things like finding niche products have been wiped, I used Massdrop for an age to get some good tech, now its owned by corsair and sells absofuckinglutely nothing.
The modern rules of the internet are “If it doesnt make more money than god then it’s not worth shit, if it does, then it’s bought out by a shady conglomerate then used to harvest your data”
You say, while adding content to an alternative part of the internet!
God remember the newground days? When that was a “giant?” What a time.
I don’t know, small personal websites and webrings are having a bit of a comeback. Federated networks are humming along ,if not growing. AI is, ironically, making it much easier for people to build their own tools and ditch SaaS.
I still have hope for a decentralization comeback.
I’m working on a website, and to ensure it had the old Internet charm I’m doing everything from scratch. Learning html and css on the go and using bright colors. I hope some friends would make their own sites at some point so we could have our own little web ring, or find strangers who are doing similar things to me. I’ve been using wiby.me to find random cool sites but I wonder if there are places where people who are in a similar niche can hangout (that’s perhaps more active than !keepwriting@lemmy.world
It’s been cyclical so far!
The Internet you loved is still here.
No it isn’t. The internet I loved is long-since dead. This is the same shit internet. Firefox doesn’t magically bring you to a wondrous new world of memes, and sites can still collect enough data on your device usage to build massive advertising profiles for you, despite what one may have convinced themselves of with a plethora of extensions. Also feels weird calling out browsers with built-in AI, considering the CEO’s dreams to integrate AI even deeper into Firefox.
It’s a cute ad, but the core messaging is flawed.
While Firefox alone doesn’t transport you to that internet, I think the point is that browsers like Firefox are one of the pieces that makes up that older experience. Fediverse being another, I would say a lot of us are here because we remember this style of social media.
They have improved the intentionality of the AI features, I wish they had it opt-out and easily configurable from the start. I moved to Zen a while back (which still relies on Firefox pushing out updates)
I’d prefer less ads, less budget for the CEO and less shady AI and crap opted in by default.
Waterfox is right there
And libre wolf!
Waterfox didn’t come out of thin air, though. It still needs Firefox to provide an updated browser code so they can do their changes. I doubt they could handle a full browser standalone on their own.
Oh yeah. But, they rip out all the ai. I’ll stick with that until Firefox makes it impossible (which they almost certainly will).
I’ll move on after that.
An LLM in my browser is completely unnecessary and actively useless
true and I agree to all of that, but this ad is actually nice.
I also think some outreach is important, especially if they can get that through memes instead of paying Facebook/Google.
Having more people using Firefox instead of Google chrome is a good thing. If nothing else, websites will have more of an incentive to make sure websites work on non-chromium browsers.
And hey, if a few of those new users donate to the project, they can be less reliant on Google and sponsored content
How about no AI and crap opted-in by default? Seriously, Vivaldi is great for my needs, and I haven’t had any problems using ublock origin and other ad blocking extensions with it.
I like Vivaldi, but in my experience, LibreWolf is even better at blocking some of the worst ads.
But does YouTube work with it?
Yup
Sorry can’t do 80% of my revenue is from Google
I like the way Tay Zonday moved away from the mic (to breathe in).
I’ve been ride or die with FF since before Chrome was a thing. I keep Vivaldi installed for a few things, but FF is my daily driver.
I know that Mozilla has made some decisions that I don’t agree with, but the Internet would be worse off without FF.
Same even on Android. If a site doesn’t work well with FF, Vivaldi usually works. Vivaldi is also better for PWAs.
PWAs
Poles With Attitudes?
Precious Worcester Ants
Progressive Web App, basically a webpage built with html/css/js/etc but designed to act more as an application.
Try waterfox.
Firefox is controlled opposition for Chrome so that Google can claim they aren’t a monopoly in the browser scene. It’s why Mozilla always makes stupid decisions in spite of making an otherwise quality browser software.
The internet of the past also didn’t need 4GB of RAM to render a page.
Mozilla is just enshiitifing on a different schedule than the rest, they will end up in the same place at the end. there are lots of pre-enshittifiaction firefox forks that are much better. Try one of those instead.
I’m using one of those, it still depends on Firefox being around
No not really, once it’s been forked the original can die and the forks will be just fine.
The forks will not be just fine because they’re dependent on Mozilla for the new features and highly important security updates.
Oh yeah? Because famously netscape navigator is still around for firefox to get all of their features and security updates from.
Oh thats right it’s not.
Forks and downstream are very different. Showing your ass here.
That may be true but librewolf, waterfox, zen, ironfox, etc don’t have large companies with funding from google to push out features and security updates as fast as possible. Meaning that if Mozilla goes down, then all those forks go down with it unless they can find lots of contributors and funding.
That’s true for a hard fork, not a downstream fork
Most of these other browsers are downstream forks. I’m not aware of any popular/reputable hard forks of Firefox
How do you do fellow
kidsadults?Some money for Laina. Nice!
I see Laina, I updoot. I see praise or well-wishing for Laina, I updoot.
Omg, shoes
Let’s party
Goddammit, I blame you for the rabbit hole I am about to go down. And just for good measure I’ll have to add HAWPOfficial too.
See what you made me do?!?!?!
I have to keep a version of Chrome around because Firefox refuses to support or won’t support web USB. But other than that my daily driver is Zen. Firefox based. And I wouldn’t trade it.
HDR still not added unless you’re a Mac user, stereo audio only.
Good to know as well. I don’t have a use case myself so I never bumped into it.
I do this too, but I can very much respect the decision not to support any kind of hardware-level access from a web browser.
To an extent sure. But if their adding some ai MCP server to the browser etc. It’s going to be way more dangerous. So for me at least of kind of a wash.
Why… Why would you?
I mean rhetorical, but god why. I want many layers between me and any internet browser.
basically same here
Yes Firefox has pretty much been my daily driver since before it was called Firefox. And the UI overhaul in zen definitely elevates it. I wish the Mozilla Foundation was less focused on AI and advertisement bullshit and more focused on things like UI improvements or web USB support etc. The underlying engine is pretty decent. But it’s the foundations behavior that really makes it not viable for a lot of people.
same here & couldn’t agree more
Tay Zonday and Overly Attached Girlfriend haven’t aged a day.
That’s because they’re magic and wonderful and are being protected at all costs.
Firefox is pretty great, but I prefer privacy and security by default, which is why I run librewolf only over VPN. I could go TOR, but man that’s a pain.
