Changing their minds isn’t really the point of it, it’s more about giving the other people possibly seeing the thing a better chance to realize what they’re reading, so they might not believe the disinformation as easily.

Obviously fighting constantly against a crowd consisting mostly of trolls and idiots you can’t even tell apart would take a heavy toll on anyone - I fully agree with it being a sisyphean task. Personally I just tend to block the major communities harboring them, and do only small stuff like these comments pointing this pattern out

My actual position is that Dessalines should tell Nutomic to either stop being a transphobe or get lost. And since Dessalines won’t do either, lemmy.ml is a lost cause and should be defederated by every trans-respecting instance until it’s stuck in its own little transphobic bubble with lemmygrad and hexbear. The rest of us get on with our lives and slowly move over to Piefed like Ada is doing with her community. Eventually lemmy.ml is about as influential as Truth Social or Raddle or Digg and Nutomic dies at the ripe old age of 90, having learned nothing and lost all relevance. In the intervening decades a worldwide communist revolution has destroyed capitalism, so Nutomic is entitled to free healthcare in his battle with cancer/parkinsons/dementia, because I support liberty and equality for all, even wankers.

That’s what I think we should do.

Well there we go, don’t we

Fundamentalist is he?

Point 2: I get ya. Had me confused. Took me a sec.

Was drawing historical parallel. Note word “unpopular” in particular.

Kinda “don’t forget Hitler had supporters”, ya? If I hadn’t clicked that paraphrase woulda left me with opposite impression, would note when paraphrasing pls

Also IDK if credible cuz read one Wiki page (JK read 15% of it)

China doesn’t have better healthcare than the US, their system is essentailly Obamacare. I’ve asked my aunts in China about it.

Homeownership? I mean that’s just white westerners mismanaging their money. Literally I heard of white dudes be spending their entire paycheck in bars and gambling, while still having unpaid bills. Look at the percentage of Asian Americans owning homes compared to non-Asians Americans, maybe its not a “China vs West” thing, but just Asian people are more responsible with money, I mean, we literally live in the same country as y’all, and as a matter of fact, we even face more discrimination and prejudice, yet somehow, Asian people have higher home ownership. No offense, and not to victim blame, but what are y’all doing? I mean… My family didn’t come from a rich background either, we grew up in poverty.

High education? I mean, depends. I had a Hukou in Taishan (rural) and was denied access to Guangzhou’s (urban) public schools. A permanent 2nd class resident basically. Even the US (prior to 2025, at least) had allowed undocumented immigrants to go to public school, yet China denied their own citizens education if they dare to move to another location even within the country. If we hadn’t moved abroad, we have to eventually go to highschool in Taishan, which has a much lower quality of education than Urban areas.

Public transportation… well you got that part right, I’ll ackowledge that. I remember Guangzhou’s metro being way more modern and cleaner than the US, and I loved the platform safety door protecting people from falling. But that doesn’t exactly matter that much when the job market is fucked. And Hukou system is fucking stupid.

The only way for China to be a “beacon of prosperity” for you is if you have some skills like being a scientist or something like that, or just born into wealth. Otherwise, its not a great place for average people.

My parents both grew up in poverty in rural villages, the Hukou system prevented people from leaving Taishan to seek better income, until Deng Xiaoping’s Opening Up and Reforms. Even then, jobs have much longer hours and minimal break time. I never really got to see my parents much, they just left my brother and I at home, just the two of us alone, so we end up fighting a lot. That was what “child care” was. At least until I was even old enough to be enrolled in pre-school and primary school.

Because I was the 2nd child, I didn’t get legal recognition of my existence until my parent paid the government’s demand of a large payment (aka: a "fine) for not having a government permission slip for childbirth, which is like wtf, why is that the government’s bussiness?!?

And because we didn’t have Hukou in Guangzhou, they didn’t let us be in public schools, my parents had to pay for those privately run “school” which have a lower quality of education.

When my family (legally) immigrated to the US, at first, the work wasn’t that much better, but eventually they managed to save up and buy a house, and eventually found better income, much better than any of the work they could find in China.

Of course, western countries has its own problems, such as xenophobia and racism, but for the most part, for most people, including many of my parents friends and relative who left China, life is generally better abroad compared to staying in China.

Depending on your circumstances of course, if you are a scientist, maybe its would be best for you to stay, but most of us aren’t scientists, don’t have much opportunity for income in China.

I don’t see how China is in a position to point fingers considering the treatment of the uyghurs

800 million people out of poverty is a stretch but if you wanted to make that claim, it’s because the west spent so much money to get goods from China. And the ethnic cleansing of the Uyghurs

Should they just let people kill themselves?

Or maybe if it’s so prosperous people wouldn’t want to work in a place where they want to kill themselves.

Is illegal

That has never stopped authoritarian governments lol

Ok sorry ethnic cleansing isn’t genocide, sorry…

And you think I’m supporting the west’s genocide in palestine? Nah miss me with that shit

Dictator

Yeah dawg I saw the source of that and I was banned in an .ml instance for saying “hows life in north Korea?” “Can’t complain” lol

You can keep telling yourself that

And what’s the system where people are in power without elections?

You would not expect a government based on a set of self-serving antidemocratic bureaucrats to result in such benefits

Sure, there was genuine ideological reasons for the USSRs achievements, but you’re moving the goal-posts a bit. The original claim you were disputing was whether the USSR was authoritarian, which many people agree that it was.

There can be genuine and successful efforts to improve people’s lives under any system, including in the USSR.

What was imperialist about it?

• The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact and occupation of Poland
• The Winter War against Finnland
• The East German uprising of 1953

are the first to come to my mind.

It would be a lot easier to defend the USSR if they only intervened to allow the proletariat to hold referendums, but we both know this is not what happened on many occasions.

It seems to me that Russia was continuing in the tradition Russian Empire, just under new management, and was definitely the first among “equals” in the USSR and its sphere of influence.