National Science Foundation (NSF) had offered $1.5 million to address structural vulnerabilities in Python and the Python Package Index (PyPI), but the Foundation quickly became dispirited with the terms of the grant it would have to follow.
“These terms included affirming the statement that we ‘do not, and will not during the term of this financial assistance award, operate any programs that advance or promote DEI [diversity, equity, and inclusion], or discriminatory equity ideology in violation of Federal anti-discrimination laws,’” Crary noted. “This restriction would apply not only to the security work directly funded by the grant, but to any and all activity of the PSF as a whole.”
I should use python more. I like when people have principles.
Good.
I’m glad that the people offering this money did not compromise on their ideals.
Thank God that this doesn’t prevent me from making anti DEI software using python.
Jesus the current US administration are cartoonishly evil. History is not going to be kind to the United States. In 30 Years there is going to be a museum with a little plaque on the wall and it’ll say “did you know the United States used to be a relevant world power?”.
Congratulations for having a real spine and showing the world that money isn’t everything
Thank you python team
NSF: “We’ll give you money as long as you don’t hire minorities”.
Python: “Get fucked.”
Chad shit
Bad people might steal these advanced technologies to exploit slave communities around the world, causing global suffering. What if the entire world is enslaved?
NSF: “We’ll give you money as long as you don’t hire minorities”.
Python: “Get fucked.”
Chad shit
Bad people might steal these advanced technologies to exploit slave communities around the world, causing global suffering. What if the entire world is enslaved?
lmao wut. lmfao even. roflcopter if you will. I know this is a troll account (joined today and has one (1) comment) but this is a hell of a comment. This is up there with that girl saying “Gay marriage is wrong because girls will want to marry other girls, which is what everyone wants to do, right?”
- It’s Python. It’s already open source. You can’t really steal it.
- It’s Python. Calling it an advanced technology is certainly a choice. Like, it’s a good language and it’s great for the layperson, but it’s Python. They teach it in schools. You may as well be saying that Bad people are going to steal writing. It’s Open source.
- It’s Python. How the fuck are you going to use Python to exploit slave communities around the world? Like are you gonna use it to automate your excel spreadsheets of your sweatshop. If you are, then you are more organised than 90% of sweatshops. Are you going to create a PyAI that will gain sentience and control the world for you? If you do, then frankly what you did deserves a Turing Prize because creating an AI in Python is impressive.
Jesus christ.
Pro tip, do not put this much energy into retaliating to braindead organisms like that one.
it’s my meat pumpkin
Get fucked.
Tell me, what bad shit have you smoked before posting this?
Braindead take
If “bad people might use them” would be an argument, we would just do nothing ever again.
Bad people breathe oxygen, maybe you should stop doing the same.
Besides the anti-woke bullshit, it’s just a bad idea to accept. It is absolutely not normal for a grant to have stipulations that if you violate some vaguely defined criteria somewhere in your organization, it can be clawed back at a later time. That’s a huge liability for an organization to take on that they may suddenly owe a million dollars some time in the future.
I mean basically yeah, “DEI” and “Woke” are right wing buzzwords that basically can mean whatever, and the Trump admin et al know this. They could say “letting x people use this is woke” or “hiring y people is DEI”. The Anti-DEI movement is just an excuse for actual discrimination because now we have people being fired not because they are unfit for their job, but because they’re from a minority who was deemed more qualified than someone who was White, Male and Cishet.
I mean Hegseth fired the Chief of Naval Operations because she was a woman. Straight up.
The text actually required them to not violate anti-discrimination laws.
Which under the current administration means not annoying the great all-powerful orange one. It certainly has no relation to the actual law.
What’s the size of the rock you’ve been living under in the past 10 months or so?
It’s not a rock, it’s a giant glass of flavoured water
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That’s right. Fuck anti-DEI. DEI is the future and good.
Uncritical application of DEI methods without due consideration for the objectives isn’t reasonable.
But signing a contract that says “if you do anything we can construe as DEI we can demand payback of all the support you falsely relied on” is like stepping on a landmine and hoping the fuse stops working before you have to step off.
DEI is nothing more than an acceptable form of racism.
Hiring people to meet quotas does not make a society better and does nothing to fix the root cause of inequalities.
Free access to quality education, healthcare and funding higher education for the people who can’t afford it is how you fix things for the better. This is the future and good.
DEI is the equivalent of a small band aid over a putrid, gaping wound.
Quotas is just one small aspect of DEI.
Things like anonymous soliciting and punishing racism are others.
And even quotas are just a response to stupid people using their bias at their workplace while being blindly unaware of them.
The world is full of smart women and minorities. If there wasn’t a bias we would be closer to 50% of managers not being white males.
DEI has been found to be a net good to society by numerous studies. You just get your panties in a bunch because you are ignorant af.
The Seattle zoo also rejected federal funding with these strings. My wife lost her job because of it. Because it was just for one program and the no-DEI was organization wide…
Apparently the Portland Zoo signed it… No one expected that shit. We both let her parents know that this is because of their vote in another state.
Good for them. It is good to see people do something right for once.
There’s an often repeated theme in philosophy that any gift that comes with conditions is actually just business.
I would use the term extortion, but yup.
Oh for sure, Trumps business style is about extortion rather than collaboration. He has to win and they have to lose.
It baffles me that any business is prepared to get into bed with him. It’s practically a meme at this point that he screws everyone over and doesn’t pay his debts and with him now being president of the United States, there is zero chance you’ll be able to put a lien on him.
“getting bought” is more fitting imo.
And a nice little view behind the curtains how the fascists operate.
Even when it’s reverse? grants being conditional on DEI action has been a long time thing already
I’d say so. Yes
Discrimination in the name of anti-discrimination
In 2 days the White House will order every companie to stop using python because of woke or something
Imagining all the llm dorks suddenly trying to learn typescript over the weekend
It makes me very happy to think about
Or trying to control their mice population. Wait what?
Or OpenCL.
I mean switching to OpenCL and not relying on CUDA would be great but I don’t know how I feel about it.
To them I say “good luck, fuckers”
based Python.
This makes me love python (the programming language) even more.
After growing up watching things like Bill Nye, seeing names like the NSF saying shit like this is like an actual fucking nightmare reality. It’s just so incredibly wrong.
The python foundation should have asked them to define the terms of the contract in a document. At least that way we would have had a legal definition of what woke means in their eyes. Because I’m reasonably confident that even they don’t know.
