• stebator@lemmy.world
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    Someday Microsoft might realize that Windows should be rolling‑based, like CachyOS. By that time, it will be too late for them to catch up and bring everyone back to Windows.

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      That’s literally what Windows 10 was supposed to be. “The last version of windows”. Does no one remember that?

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        I remember. I also remember Windows 8 which was supposed to make everything metro stylish and convenient, with tiling, ARM version, claims of being optimized and good for updating even on oldish boxes.

        Same times as Nokia Lumia.

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    Alternatively, just… keeps Windows 10.

    Am I crazy? Like, I would legitimately reinstall Windows 95 were it relatively feasible.

    Is it really that ill-advised to rely on outside providers for additional security features?

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      Yes it is very ill advised as people often do important tasks on the PC including banking. In fact most people will delegate their most vulnerable tasks on the PC rather than the potentially more-secure mobile device.

      To put this in perspective. There were 1,360 Vulnerabilities reported in 2024 for Windows. Not a single one will be patched after end-of-life.

      There were unreported vulnerabilities that were waiting for end-of-life to be exploited.

      If I release my malware a month before EOL and it’s caught then I have to start from scratch. If I do it after EOL then I can reap the benefits forever.

      https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2025/04/21/820580.htm

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    I really hope these people don’t accept that it’s normal to charge for different desktop environments.

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      They are just different layouts for Gnome, but it’s annoying that they call what is essentially a donation to them a Pro edition. A donate button would likely make more as it feels philanphropic.

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      Use Cachy for a while. Not a single issue so far. Very good distro for people who want the OS out of the way. The perfect compatibility with Nvidia is a plus!

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    I just installed Linux Mint on my dad’s old laptop. He asked me to do it!

    I checked and it could run Windows 11 with a RAM upgrade. But he wasn’t interested in that.

    He was surprised at all of the software installed by default. And mostly just uses the browser to read his Outlook mail…

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      Same dude!

      I got games to run too, using Lutris. I can give you a few tips if you want. I put it on a thinkpad T470p.

      I can probably run pretty much anything using Lutris. It can read any iso file and presumably even .exe files though I haven’t tried it with exe’s.

      Still, most of what we need is available just in a browser or from open source, like Libreoffice.

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    At least Bill Gates won’t be able to afford the third home for a distant cousin he’s never met. /s

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    Can’t blame them. The sloth has done so much to alienate their user base that should just kill the division

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    Eh, that’s fine but I’m good until 2032 with my Windows 10.

    Also, we aren’t for sure certain how many of those people are uniquely downloaded from Windows and specifically the purpose or reason.

    Some could’ve downloaded Zorin for experimental purposes. Some could’ve downloaded it from a Windows VM. Some could’ve downloaded it from Windows when they’re in a dual-boot system.

    Hate to burst that bubble, but you need to consider these things before big numbers are boasted. There’s a lot of variables involved.

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      The article isn’t making any baseless claims. That’s you.

      The developers of the Linux-based Zorin OS say their latest release, Zorin OS 18, has already been downloaded more than one million times, and according to telemetry, over 78% of those downloads came from Windows systems. It’s not a perfect proxy for real migrations, but it’s a striking data point during a moment when Microsoft’s user base is unusually restless

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    How popular is it against other distros? First I’ve heard of it (admittedly doesn’t say much since I’m used to the older ones), which makes me wonder how close to a million people did. Did influencers spread the word or something?

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      I’ve noticed Zorin does a lot of marketing and it comes in waves, you won’t hear anything for months then it’ll be everywhere for a few days.

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    I downloaded Mint last week and started the installation but got cold feet when it came to drive formatting. I still want to keep my win10 operational in case I won’t be able to run something on Linux.

    I never actually used Linux before… I installed it 3 times before and always quickly went back to windows due to some compatibility or driver issues, but…

    <Rant mode=“venting”> I am NOT switching to win11… It’s enough that I am forced to use it at work. That system is so fuckin stupid… They took a lot of minor elements and just made each of them worse… I get that the sales department told you to shove OneDrive and Copilot everywhere, it’s stupid and annoying but I get it, it’s just plain old greed, but why can’t the Calendar show the whole month and don’t work on the second monitor?!? (Are you planning to add it as a paid subscription later?!?) </Rant>

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      One can resize the Windows partition from Windows itself, then install Linux alongside it. But have backups and be careful.

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      Bruh, they moved rename file. That shit has been in the same place since 3.1. Fucking why.

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      lol I forgot about the calendar issue

      a perfect example of them making it worse for literally no reason at all

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      I used disk2vhd to virtualize my laptop windows disk and put it on a USB stick and then got it running on Linux with VirtualBox. I’m gonna need it once a year for taxes.

      I did run into some trouble getting secureboot working in virtualbox, but solved it after I figured out the kernel drivers were compressed.

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      Just add a new partition and dual boot, it is pretty easy.

      Also I do not recommend Mint for Windows users, because the officially supported UX layers are more apple-esque. Use a distro that has KDE support baked in. Adding KDE to Mint is easy but may not be for people switching.

      For that reason, I recommend going with distros with KDE Plasma by default. Kubuntu or KDE neon.

      Why KDE? It feels like where Windows should have gone. It’s like the glory days of Windows (windows 2000, etc) in the modern age. It is a drastic upgrade from Windows with more freedom than you ever had.

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        I do not recommend Mint for Windows users, because the officially supported UX layers are more apple-esque

        you can’t have a more classic desktop look and feel than using MATE, and it’s from the same people that maintains Mint

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        Mint has the Cinnamon desktop environment which isn’t that different from Windows/KDE. You’re probably thinking of Gnome?

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          Cinnamon, to me, is an in-between, more like modern Windows, which moved in a more macos direction. KDE is like golden age Windows. Gnome is like macos.

          When I used Mint (maybe 10 years ago now?), I had all kinds of problems with Cinnamon. KDE was like magic and I always use it now. Perhaps things have changed but we can only make recommendations based on our experiences and knowledge.

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            Aye, Cinnamon i’d say is pretty Windows like now (taskbar, start menu and tray) but definitely not as good as KDE. The average user would be happy with either I think.

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                I’m glad to hear that, thank you for sharing.

                It sounds like Windows users have a lot more options now, which is a good thing.

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      You can get a cheap ssd and install linux on it. Before installing disconect existing windows drive. After install reconnect windows drive and make sure that windows boots. Then boot to bios and choose linux as default drive and after booting to mint desktop update grub to include windows. On each boot you will be able to choose which OS you want.

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      One pretty safe way is if you get a separate drive for Linux and completely swap out the Windows one. It’s not dual booting but at least you can switch back if it doesn’t work out for you.

      Just make sure you have whatever you need to get the Windows drive working again if it’s encrypted.

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      If you have issues with mint, try something based on Debian or Fedora rather than Ubuntu like Mint is.

      For Fedora I recommend Bazzite if you do gaming and nothing too technical. Flatpaks make it easy to find and install software without messing things up. Otherwise Fedora Kiinoite.

      For Debian I recommend Debian itself really. Also runs very well on much older machinery.

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    My machine was once VERY capable. It’s not a top of the line gaming box but it’s still capable and shows no signs of crapping out yet. Can’t run windows 11 but it’s not worth throwing away my computer over.

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      I’ve been using a PC with C2D till it died. And I’m still having thoughts of checking whether it’s solvable with a bit of soldering, perhaps replacing power.

      It’s enough for music, text editing, a little bit of web browsing and old games. Old games here includes a lot of goodness, but even World of Tanks worked under Wine on it back when I used it. Slow, but playable (when you have friends and it’s a social event, alone kinda sad).

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      Same boat, my computer is basically the computer my wife built probably about 12 years ago before we got together, it was pretty beefy for its time. I basically stuck her old components in a new box (and also stuck a newer graphics card in it because I got a really good deal on a used 2060)

      Still manages to run most games out there on acceptable (to me) settings.

      Made the switch to Linux about a week ago, no major issues, some things are arguably running better now. It’s not without its hiccups but so far things have gone pretty smoothly.

      EDIT: went with Mint over Zorin though.

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      I’ve got an Intel 6900K 8-core X99 system. Also not compatible with W11, but serving me well.

      The issue is even if I wanted to upgrade, that market segment is effectively dead; X299 and X399 (AMD) were the last real HEDT platforms. The only thing now is workstation tier boards, which are about $1K and processors to match