The metal straw is preserved and remains a famous medical specimen at the Anatomy and Pathology Museum at UC San Francisco.

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      Yes and no. The rod was actually a metal straw and the powder charge was actually a car traveling down I-80. Pretty common mistake.

      The only reason this is documented so inaccurately is because everyone was too busy looking at the Kim Kardashian pic that broke the Internet and couldn’t open their camera app quickly enough to get it for the vine.

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        yeah it read plainly as a reference to me but people also tell me other people don’t know the kinds of things I do a lot of the time.

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            This is funny because I do actually have a strong background in psychiatry which has a fair amount in common with both neurology and psychology and Phineas Gage’s case is actually a pretty famous one in regards to the historical evolution of all three of those fields.

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                Trepanning, or as it’s now called, craniotomy, is where a section of the skull is removed / bored through. It’s mostly done for cerebral edema where there’s pressure inside the skull and on the whole brain (it can even fatally herniate the brainstem which means shoving it out through the bottom of the skull like a play dough extruder).

                It’s wild to think that there was actually a reason ancient cultures did it. They way overused it and for the wrong things during certain time periods and it was horrifying that they were doing it without anesthetic, but I’ve also heard that it results in a basically instant return to orientation. So the few patients it would’ve worked on would have gone from deliriously speaking in tongues (I know it’s not any real language but that kind of confusion does at face value sound like something that would require an exorcism) and would suddenly just… wake up. Possibly with a spray of puss out of the wound.

                There’s a lot of old timey medical stuff we still do, it’s just now we do it with anesthetic and sterilization. Medically sterile maggots are used to clear out dead and infected wound tissue and some surgeons who work on structures with delicate vasculature like hands will use leeches to prevent swelling from blocking off bloodflow to the area while it heals. I’ve spent most of my career working at places that do electroconvulsive therapy (again, under anesthesia) for severe treatment resistant depression and catatonia (like so bad they can’t move or eat and need to be turned, cleaned and fed with a tube), and one time I worked with a patient who had had a frontal lobectomy (used to be called a lobotomy) for a severe seizure disorder that wouldn’t respond to medication.

                Anyway Gage’s case was more on the subject of localized trauma and what injuries to the brain a human can survive. In particular it began our understanding that frontal brain injuries are usually much more survivable than ones to the rear, but that they can effect personality and in particular emotional and impulse control.

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                  I love your detailed response and admire your passion. For the record, I was being sarcastic since trepanning as a treatment was not intended for direct interaction with the brain. I threw the “deep tissue” in there because Mr. Gage did in fact get a hole in his skull. Unintentionally and originating from the wrong side.

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    Thank god we have reusable silicone straw, safer than both one-use plastic straw and stainless steel straw.

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    Yeah this didn’t happen.

    But people do chip their teeth on metal straws, so it’s still a bad idea to use them in cars without those silicone bumpers.

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      Youre right it was a large metal rod that went though his head. It also wasnt while driving it was an explosion or something, I don’t remember just find his wiki page. Shockingly he lived.

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      No shit Sherlock … Phineas Gage famously was impaled through the skull by a railroad rod. It’s a joke.

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    meanwhile in uruguay :

    They have to put up signs begging people to not bring mate on the bus, or to vaccinations, or paperwork at government buildings.

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        It’s more for your safety and to avoid having people with masks off in a congregation place during covid, or to avoid documents getting stuff spilt on them.

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        Perhaps because the traditional way to drink it involves a vessel like this one, with a metal straw could potentially impale someone’s eyeball if the driver has to make an emergency stop

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          As an uruguayan can confirm this is the reason, and to avoid getting the straw sent down your throat, also to avoid spilling boiling water over someone else.

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            Have lids not been invented in Uruguay yet?

            Also, instead of a straw, wouldn’t it be possible to use a sippy cup lid (like those on coffee travel mugs), but with a built-in sieve (like those on a French press), or would that ruin the experience?

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              The way we use it is, every time you want to drink you pour a bit of hot water from a bottle to the gourd (mate) that is almost filled with yerba mate (dried and milled leafs) to make the infusion, the straw has tiny holes to filter the water. A sippy cup lid would make you to get a lot of yerba on your mouth.

              So you sip the straw until you get all the water, and as you almost constantly are pouring new water it’s impractical to have a lid. Many people leave the bottle with the cap always open for convenience and walk around with the bottle tucked under their arm.

              We got things like this where the colored part is the gourd

              I have not tried it but the purists will despise you for using them.

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                A sippy cup lid would make you to get a lot of yerba on your mouth.

                Right, that’s where the French press sieve comes in. It’s a permanent metal filter like this one, which is fine enough to deal with ground coffee, so mate should be no problem, as it’s usually much coarser. A lid with something like this underneath should be able to keep all the mate inside the cup, and also prevent clogging. Combine with an insulated mug that keeps the water hot for more than five minutes, and you shouldn’t have to constantly refill it either.

                I understand that traditions are important, but are they important enough to scald or impale yourself over on the freaking bus?

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        kinda? It’s more for your safety and to avoid having people with masks off in a congregation place during covid, or to avoid documents getting stuff spilt on them.

        Imagine you’re sucking on a metal straw in a bus and it hits a bump, and you slip …

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      Probably, but myth busters isn’t the best source for scientific fact.

      I’m still salty about them calling the bullet drop “myth” confirmed even though their data clearly showed the two bullets hitting the ground at different times. But that was always going to happen because they didn’t do it in a vacuum.

      But I digress. A lot of their conclusions are drawn because they’re unable to reproduce a situation in a controlled environment, but that doesn’t mean the situation is impossible.

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          That if you drop a bullet and shoot a bullet (parallel to the ground) at the same time, they’ll hit the ground at the same time. In their experiment there was a difference in the times, but they said it was confirmed.

          It’s not a myth, it just requires a vacuum since air resistance will muck things up.