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    I like when Matt Damon restates his name three or four times in the dialogue

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    It’s the big tech social media disease.

    Everyone, frigging everyone who steps away from fb/insta/twittler/yt/tiktok/… says the same “holy shit my mind is so peaceful all of a sudden.” And somehow it’s not substantially part of the daily discourse. Somehow between that and EVERYTHING else these mfrs are responsible for (protecting pedos, encouraging insurrections, …) just flies.

    It’s a disease, an addiction, a plague and we gotta start naming it as such. Talk to your loved ones and carefully try to get them off that shit.

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        You tell me:

        -are you getting adds/shorts/brainrot shoved in face every single second?

        -is the public on lemmy tolerant of sexoffenders? Nazis?

        -adds?

        -do you have superfluous bs following you around?

        I think not.

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          Regarding adds: I guess if you fight one lemmy user, others will spawn and come to help. So I would say yes, there are adds

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    It’s not just me, right? Modern movies and shows have less things happen in same duration of time.

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      Modern shows are lazy, they are like 6, 10 episodes tops. The simpsons in the 90s before they sucked did almost 30. They would take summer off, then breaks on xmas and spring but a show a week otherwise.

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        Dude… That was annual, too. These modern day 8-episode shows will have YEARS between seasons. Like, motherfucker, half your scenes are green screen in a big sound studio – what the fuck is taking you so long?!

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      I would actually argue the opposite. Modern movie plots are an ADD fever dream. There are so many things going on that keeping track is an absolute chore.

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    Make movies that are engaging enough to keep people from checking their feeds while they wait for something to happen.

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      My wife said that the Wire was hard to follow and boring, but she also checked her phone every 5 minutes and was carrying on a conversation there with her friends. She also impulsively pulled out facebook and scrolled a bit. I pointed all this out but Its still the shows fault somehow.

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      I dunno man, I can’t get my friends to watch some stellar movies because their attention span has been shot over time.

      Believe it or not, they’ll watch crappier movies because they don’t need to pay attention.

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      Part of it is the movie, but a large part is that short form video trains your brain to need frequent dopamine fixes. A 5 second video does that, while a 90 minute movie might not give it until the climax.

      It’s not much different than a smoker taking a break during a movie.

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        If someone starts a movie and immediately pulls their phone out or starts cleaning, that’s on them.

        And movies absolutely should not be made to cater to addiction. Nothing should, except for something explicitly designed to help people recover from addiction.

        When movies have a good idea and are given the proper attention to make them well, regular people won’t be checking the time or reading blogs when they become bored. The problem is that studios say that, good idea or not, proper attention to the craft or not, we’re making this many movies this year. We’re lucky if a few of those movies are something future generations would consider good.

        Matt Damon is suggesting that movies be made even worse than they already are.

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          Matt Damon is suggesting

          It definitely reads more as “Netflix execs suggest and Matt Damon complains about”

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        I can’t stand short videos. I won’t even watch videos that aren’t an hour or longer myself. I don’t get these shorts, it’s so unsatisfying.

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        lol yea, toootally nothing to do with it. That’s why nobody ever talks about great movies, and movies toooootally aren’t getting longer nad longer… yep, totally not a quality to attention thing.

        Not like there are legendary movies that are several hours long that people still watch… Yep, quality has nothing to do with how long people stay engaged with movies!

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          Do the people who have their phones out in films nowadays watch those old movies without looking at their phones, hmm?

          Your snark makes you sound like an arsehole.

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            My snark is because it was an assinine statement that was said rudely. I don’t know why you’re mad at me and not the rude person with the wrong opinion.

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          Bud… people are on thier phones constantly… there nothing that will stop that…

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    Why? What the fuck do they care as long as people watch it?

    Make good stuff, and people will come.

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      Not really, no. There have been plenty of tv shows for example that have been cancelled due to low audience numbers, despite being excellent. For example, In The Flesh, Mindhunter and Pushing Daisies.

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      people like the idea of liking good stuff, they do not like good stuff. This is the #1 rule of making money

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        good stuff needs to go hardcore enough some people will cringe away and not making cringe is more important than making good, because getting the anthill of these people will not give me money to give you money is more important than keeping the mountain of people who will give you money happy.

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      People will leave if they don’t like what they see. People won’t like what they don’t understand. People won’t understand what isn’t either simple or redundantly written because they don’t pay attention.

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        80% of “plot holes” people online complain about is just them either being in their phone or absolutely not understanding subtext or anything implied.

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    I find shows and movies that show something happen clearly and then restate it in the dialogue immediately quite annoying. Very common in anime.

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      I wonder if its due to how closely Anime attempts to animate Manga? I feel like you can kind of “explain” what happens in text alot more smoothly than on a TV show due to how much faster you ingest knowledge.

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          Netflix has gained the power of repetitive exposition? Such a feat has only been attained by anime before! One should expect it there, but now it’s really bothering OP!

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          To be fair, that can be necessary to make the action understandable, especially when you’re adapting a game that you don’t expect the viewers to be experts in. (Which is always because these shows are usually supposed to be advertisements.

          Imagine an MtG-themed show where battles looked like this:

          Player A: “Okay, your turn.”

          Player B: “Untap, draw… In my precombat main I play Isochron Scepter with Pongify.”

          Player A: “Fold.”

          Spectator: “Yeah, that was obviously unwinnable.”

          …without even bothering to explain the cards, much less why player A’s game couldn’t stand up to a questionable use of an Isochron Scepter.

          (Of course a particularly egregious case was Yu-Gi-Oh, which needed these explanations because the card game as shown on the show made no sense.)

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    Is that why the last season of Stranger Things spent half the season rehashing how all the characters had felt about anything ever throughout the previous four seasons?

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      I think re-explaining things that happened in previous seasons is a different issue. They’re worried that you don’t remember what happened because it has been so long.

      And that’s fair. I know I watched Season 2 (and it definitely had my full attention, because I’m incapable of doing two things at once), but the only thing I can actually remember about it is the episode where El went to Chicago and met some shadowrunners. And something about tunnels. Everything else is a blur.

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        The last season being a big mess aside, it was 100% guilty of re-explaining the plot, not just the recaps. Together with those unnecessary “LET ME EXPLAIN” scenes, like Robin using vinyls to explain a very basic concept. They really treated us like idiots.

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          The entirety of the show is like that. It’s not like a deep thinky clever show, it’s a series of 80’s horror movie references tossed in a blender.

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            Yes and no. This season has been pretty weak in the writing department, so some of these ideas that worked before were overused/used poorly this season. And for an 80s-throwback series, it ends rather depressingly, no matter how you spin it. But it’s par for the course these days for the final season/finale to shit the bed, I guess.

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              Depressingly? It was fully happily ever after. And it just did the same thing every other season did, largely disregard previous seasons to introduce a new big bad for the season leading up to a big monster fight. It was incredibly par for the course, 70 percent style with 30 percent substance. It’s not high cinema but it’s entertaining tv.

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        I agree with what you’re saying (aside from comparing that really awful episode to Shadowrun), but that’s not what went on in Stranger Things. It was just…

        From the very first episode, I asked if they had changed writers because the dialogue was so different, so bad, and so predictable–all of which only grew worse with each passing episode. And when each character had their turn to explain who they are and how they feel, it fit the same exact pattern every time. It was just really bad writing.

        All that said, I don’t think the last season was terrible. I expected it to be a lot worse than it was. The actual plot and ending of the story, I thought were perfectly mediocre and fine. It was ruined by the dialogue.

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          All that said, I don’t think the last season was terrible. I expected it to be a lot worse than it was. The actual plot and ending of the story, I thought were perfectly mediocre and fine. It was ruined by the dialogue.

          I agree with you, it was better than I expected (although I had extremely low expectations to be fair). The most miserable parts of the final season were the long “emotional” character moments with the most juvenile/amateur/unrealistic writing. I don’t skip as a rule, but I really felt like fast forwarding through some of that stuff, it was so cringe.

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      That was definitely part of it, but I think they also wrote themselves into a corner in previous seasons by not properly laying the groundwork for any of the supernatural stuff. In Season 5, they had to constantly infodump the viewers in those “plan” scenes to keep up.

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      What, do you expect the audience to pay attention and infer how characters are feeling based on things like subtle body cues? What like acting?

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      Yup, and on the same boards with people whining about that are complaints from people that still missed shit.

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      Fucking train wreck of a season. It was garbage full of useless dialogue between every character. I couldn’t watch past the first few episodes.

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    Seems helpful. I’m probably watching Netflix, driving a ride share right this very moment AND cooking my family a nutritious dinner all at this very moment

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    I think I read a different article about this months ago!

    For some reason I’m kind of surprised to hear about it again because not a lot of people seem to talk about it.