Guys this is good news, maybe google and mozilla will figure it out and stop making their applications the biggest ram hogs in human history, taking more ram to render a few documents than it takes to render a AAA game. Or at least stop benchmarking a browser with 1 page open and saying look, 1 page only takes a gig of ram and most users, at least in our imagination, only have 1 page open.
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What. My six year old cheapo Acer laptop that got my broke ass through college had 16gb ram. My raspberry pi has 8gb of ram.
Oh the irony that I have 16 GB RAM on my old Lenovo
better start removing AI from Windows then… holy fucj my 16gb is barely holding up with windows11 that in forced to use on my work PC. slow as BALLS, it’s just raping the entire system performance constantly
I have win11 on a work surface laptop pro with 16gb and I’m consistently at 15+GB used. This is corporate bloat. How do I know? I have a personal surface pro 6 with win11 and 16gb and it runs like a breeze.
Corporate bloat is such bullshit.
If there’s one thing corporate IT is good at it’s bullshit and security theater. Can they stop corporate espionage? Of course not. Can they make it really annoying for employees to access data they need for their job: ✅. But at least they’re “compliant” with some rules that aren’t even particularly well-documented.
Just give me DDR4 then.
I may limit myself buy one as well.
This is not limiting mid-range laptops. This is making more low-range laptops. Just because you’re making more lower tiered laptops doesn’t mean the midrange adjusts as mid-range is based on specs/performance. This is basic taxonomy.
The average laptop produced by these 2 manufacturers will see a decrease in specs.
Why not just tell me to go fuck myself and skip the unsatisfying foreplay?
Large computing will exist solely in the cloud where you will pay a subscription for it. Can’t have these grubbing consumers buy anything we elites don’t get a monthly cut of.
I wish this was sarcasm.
I am honestly not sure if that’s a bad thing aside from the capitalism of it all. Almost all tasks normal people do could be done with a 10 year old computer running Linux.
I will find it hilarious if this RAM pricing issue causes people to move to Linux rather than have slow ass Windows 11.
I’m positive its a bad thing. It will mean the end of ownership. Our children will be born and their only worth with be as consumers for which they can crushed for any reason the owners see fit. Its slavery and feudalism nothing more nothing less.
and cant we just put fucking ddr4 or ddr3 on it? why does it got to be bleeding edge all the time?
…and I’m still on 4 GB RAM, TROLOLOL
You must be using Linux.
He also must not be a gamer. Or at least not one that understands years past 2003
Nope to both of you. Windows 10 and I play Minecraft 1.8.9.
So you have the patience of Buddha, that’s great.
I am. I have 16 GB on my 15 year old eight-core PC, run virtual machines, and need barely half the RAM. My laptop is a Thinkpad T490 and is totally fine. My Linux phone runs fine with 5 GB right now.
Hah, guess they’re gonna have to run Linux. Windows 11 would choke on 8 GB RAM.
It’s the year of the Linux desktop!
lmaooooo
I agree, funny enough they require minimum 4 GB, but I had problems with it with 16 GB. 8 GB is nowhere near enough, especially if you use excel, teams, and that crap.
I have to use windows at work, have 32gb and regularly get browser tabs unloaded for low memory. I’m not running VMs or anything. Usually just Firefox, visual studio, and slack.
Personal computer is Linux with 16gb and that’s more than enough.
Same here. Modern 32 gb machine from work is a slog. 2 minutes from wake to actually working, can be 10 seconds just to use the start menu sometimes. Older thinkpad with 16gb and linux/cosmic desktop - wakes almost instantly and perfectly snappy for most things.
Most bloated apps like outlook and teams etc regularly use nearly a gig of ram each in my experience. Brutal.
It’s neat that AI is already ruining the world in really tangible ways.
Time to switch to Linux people lol. Windows is barely usable on 8GB these days.
And set up ZRAM.
ZRAM is real. Even on computers with lots of ram it lets the os compress and tuck away memory that a process is hoarding. When I start using android studio all these long-running election process get 1/2 their memory swapped out to disk, and evidently they never really needed it because days later I still see lots of their memory swapped out.
What’s ZRAM?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zram
One of the mechanisms for compressing memory in Linux. Trades CPU time for effectively having more RAM Recent versions of Fedora apparently have it on by default.
I’ve read that zswap, another mechanism, is preferable on newer systems with NVMe/SSD, where paging isn’t as painful; that only compresses pages going to swap, but requires that you actually have some swap. I haven’t used either.
Probably someone should try benchmarking them for various workloads if systems are going to be running on much less memory for a while. Was more of an edge case thing that not many people cared about, but if operating with less memory is suddenly more important, might have broader interest.
On Linux, also possible to opt for lighter-on-memory versions of a lot of software that you’re kinda committing to using the Microsoft-provided version of on Windows. File browser, compositor, etc.
Most everything on the desktop is going to be light on ram except the web browser and electron apps (i.e. web browsers). Games use a lot too, but thats less of an issue because you don’t tend to multitask as much with games. Using onetab or some other way of limiting browser tabs severely helpa a lot.
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