• Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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    Sad, mine is in 2027 and I got in on day 2 when they opened pre-orders as I missed initial announcement.

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      I have no doubt it is with the way the prices have been with memory and gas for a while now at this point. Not necessarily Valve’s fault, but it’s gonna suck ass regardless.

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    I have a Steam Deck and am not sure what the hype is about with the Steam controller. On my SD, the track pads don’t really work that well (mainly use them in desktop mode as a mouse), and $50 Xbox controllers otherwise seem equivalent, except at half the price with support for Linux distros other than SteamOS. Am I overlooking something critical?

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      Trackpads are crucial if you want to play strategy games or anything mouse based. They also offer a lot better aiming control in fps games (although I think using gyro for aiming is even better than that). They also can be used for fancy touch menus and things like that.

      The back buttons are also extremely nice.

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    yay got my notification today. Reserved on the 8th. Just leaving this here as some hope to the people that haven’t received anythng yet

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    Honestly would love one of these controllers but a limiting factor for me is how universal it can be, a friend nabbed one on preorder says you can only really use it on steam with limited support outside of steam. Got one of those gamesir pros instead, same price, no wait, universal usable on pc

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      Without steam it defaults to doing a combination of keyboard and mouse inputs, meant to let people use a desktop. Idea is you could boot up computer, and then be able to navigate the computer to launch steam/etc.

      You do have options for playing games from outside of steam:

      • add games as a non-steam game to steam, allows managing inputs/etc.
      • any games that use SDL will have native steam controller support (many emulators etc)
      • software like Steamless controller (windows) or SISR (windows or linux) allow you to use the controller outside of steam, allowing different levels of input customization.

      edit: removed sc-controller because it’s apparently not updated for the new steam controller yet

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      What else do you want to use it for? For me the coolest feature is the ability to play mouse games on a couch. For other consoles I think either 1st party controller or a good 8bido would defeat steam controller despite it being really awesome

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    I put in my reservation on May 14th and it’s showing availability in 2027 for me. It’s kind of killing my interest to be honest. That’s a long wait.

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      If it helps. That is the “earliest estimate”

      Pretty sure, every controller they have is going to go out with the Frame or the Machine from now til then. Need to justify the (almost guaranteed) $1000+ MSRP.

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      i got the same estimate and i placed my reservation like an hour after they opened :c

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      Think of it like this,this estimates everyone buying it. It can only get better from this. I got dec. 26

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      I put my order in about 30 minutes after the reservation queue went live and I also show a September estimated date. I’m interested, when did you get your reservation in?

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        I don’t remember for sure, I think it was early afternoon that day?

        Edit: Got the confirmation email from my reservation 1:10pm May 8th

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            Might want to check the status on the reservation page then

            But yes you should’ve gotten an email

            Could also maybe ask support to resend you the email if possible

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    I’m actually baffled who buys all of these controllers? If you’re windows user you have a plethora of options in all price brackets. I wanted to buy steam controller because of Linux compatibility (Reverse engineered Xbox controller driver likes to shit itself from time to time)

    Why everyone else just suddenly needs This new controller is just beyond me

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      If you’re windows user you have a plethora of options in all price brackets. I wanted to buy steam controller because of Linux compatibility (Reverse engineered Xbox controller driver likes to shit itself from time to time)

      8bitdo and similar controllers work absolutely fine under Linux. No idea where your Linux compatibility thing comes from.

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      The old steam controller was loved by many and has always been praised by its very enthusiastic user base. With Valve proving their worth as a hardware vendor to the masses via the steam deck, I’m not surprised the controller is as popular as it is. I hope you manage to get one!

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      I want something that works instead of PS5 Bluetooth that cuts off when I put it under my desk. It’s a first class controller designed for pc that just works. It also has other cool things like never dying.

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        I found that disabling my motherboard’s Bluetooth and using a dongle improved that situation dramatically. I suspect all the EMI plus a steel desktop case was a big contributor.

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        I’ve experimented with Xbox controller on Bluetooth, and it wasn’t a good experience. I did some research and it looks like it’s because Microslop decided to ignore the bloetooh specs - controller doesn’t signal required bandwidth, so BT driver defaults to the lowest one. If you force driver to faster transmission rate, it will work better, but all other devices that support lowest speed only won’t work

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          Mine heats to crazy temps and I had to glue a copper radiator on to the microslop bluetooth thingy

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      It got two track pad, i can’t find the recommended one on this price range with two track pad.

      Edit: i can’t buy it even if i wanted to.

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      It’s a hyped-up piece of videogame hardware. I’m gonna guess half the sales were to scalpers planning to immediately resell at twice the price.

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        It’s hyped because of the touchpads. And hall effect sticks

        That’s why I got it. Sold the dual shock, and Hoping to sell my Xbox controller too

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          Almost every third party controller these days uses Hall effect or TMR.

          It’s hyped because it’s sTeAm and scalpers.

          I sweat they do this limited inventory on purpose for the news coverage

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    Well, on the one hand… having more demand than you can actually fulfill is the kind of problem most busineses would like to have…

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      Or they are taking a loss on every deck, controller, sold and we don’t even have a price on the desktop.

      Valve is taking a red bloody bath and slowing the bleeding.

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        Do you have any evidence to suggest that valve released a brand new controller and decided, what out of the goodness of their hearts, to sell it for a loss?

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          Businesses sell things for a loss all the time, it’s never out of the goodness of their hearts. It’s a strategy to gain market share or to sell other products for a higher margin. Every supermarket you’ve ever been to has products for sale at a loss. Doesn’t make it a good deal for the customer either, just an accounting reality.

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            As someone who works in retail, even our best sales at our store will still make us around a 10% profit. Our normal GP for items sits around 30% to 40%, so while it is less than that we almost never actually sell things for a real loss.

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            Yeah but this isn’t really the same as the Costco hot dog. It’s a product that’s more expensive than the alternatives (though they don’t have track pads) and steam is the defacto pc gaming software. Other massive companies can barely compete and have to do stuff like epic where they give games out for free (exactly the kind of tactic you’re talking about). My sarcastic comment about the kindness of their heart is because I personally can’t see another reason to do that. That’s why I asked for any evidence - an interview, a tweet from someone who would know, an article, anything other than a hunch.

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              sarcastic comment about the kindness of their heart is because I personally can’t see another reason to do that

              Exactly you can’t personally see it so i explained it to you lol

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            Yes but valve already has a monopoly on the PC gaming market. Usually companies sell things at a loss to attract you to them so you buy other things while you get the good deal.

            In valve’s case, we’re already in the store buying their games. There’s no reason for them to sell it at a loss, because it won’t attract people to steam.

            Theres nobody out there saying “wow I would be a PC gamer playing on steam if I had a steam specific controller.”

            Maybe that’s the case for the steam machines and steam frame coming up, but I kinda doubt it.

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            They could’ve sold it at twice the price I’d still would’ve bought one tho?

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        Why should they take a loss on the controller? There is no RAM or other parts affected by the price hikes in it. Also they announced the price only shortly before launch. Why should they have chosen a price that does not cover the costs? This does not make any sense.

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    “Behind”

    100% what this actually means is valve is only making them in limited to supply to lengthening the time they take losses.

    Valve ain’t making money on decks, they ain’t going to make money on the controllers, and they are going to take a bloody red bath on the machines.

    Y’all need to read between the lines. It’s a controller. It ain’t hard to make.

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      I think people are forgetting that the steam machine is going to ship with a controller as well. I think they have to split their controller production between people buying just the controller and the amount of steam machines they are producing as they get ready to launch that.

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      Are they making loss with each sales? I’d imagine the $100 price point mean they earn quite a bit.

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        I doubt they are earning as much as you think.

        They jam packed it full of shit that nobody needs like capacitive Joysticks, and capacitive touchpads on the bottom.

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      They increased the price of the steam deck quite a bit. Doubt they’re not making money off of it.

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        You clearly haven’t watched the other billionaires run at losses for years.

        Steam is very happy to lose money on consoles to keep their 30% cut and monopoly.

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          You’re forgetting that it’s just a computer, and can it can be reformatted, and you can install any OS on it to do anything with it. It’s not locked to the Steam Store in any way. It’s not like a console where they can sell it at a loss and make money on games later because console companies make it impossible for you to use it as a normal computer. Steam does not.

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            And yet someone who buys a steam branded computer is specifically highly likely to buy more games from steam. Yes, feel free to buy a cheaper computer with the same specs and never buy from steam ever. You’re not the target of this product.

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          That has nothing to do with my point. I’m saying that, given the current price (and age), of the steam deck, I doubt that they’re losing money on it.

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            I disagree. They already had thin margins, they started it themselves. Then prices went up and they sold at a loss. The recent increase was because they couldn’t take more of a bath. This excludes the tens of millions of dollars they have had to pump in you Linux.

            I have no doubt until I see data otherwise they are breaking even at best.

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              What they “pumped” into linux (proton, actually) is a general investment for the future, not something that shpuld be taken into account when discussing the Steam Deck hardware cost, specifically.

              You’re also assuming that they didn’t already had purchased the steam deck components at a lower cost when everything started to get more expensive.

              Basically you’re making up a relatively plausible but nevertheless imaginary scenario with 0 proof/sources.

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    Well, at least it’s an update. I was just about to post in here if anyone had received a purchase link from their reservation yet. I made mine on May 10th; maybe that means I’ll be in the “this year” batch.

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      I’m in the US. Reservations opened at 12pm May 8th, I queued up by 12:01, got my link to purchase last Thursday with the controller arriving a few days ago. Based on that and considering there were likely a lot of reservations placed over those two days, my gut says that you might be waiting a while, unfortunately.

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        Yup, I got mine on day one (spam that F5 ppl) and it was here on the second day, surprised me, pleasantly, they said a week.

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      I made my reservation in the first minutes when it was possible and clicked the buying link as soon as I got one sent. The controller was delivered 10 days ago. I am located in Germany.

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      I made my reservation request on May 8th at 11am, and I got my purchase invitation on June 15th at 9pm. Hope that helps.