• Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca
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    4 hours ago

    I know I shouldn’t judge people without getting to know them but every time I see a cyber truck, I immediately think that the owner must be a gigantic douche canoe.

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    Fiero wins again!

    It might sometimes be on fire, but unlike a cybertruck you can put it out!

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      At least the Cybertruck makes sure you don’t need to buy a new car, by locking its doors. /s

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    Never been able to be sold outside of the US, including Europe or Asia because it would never pass the safety test, says it all.

    It also says something about the American safety tests and laws. Americans are so afraid of Chinese cars that pass all safety tests but this unsafe monstrosity roams the streets?

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      Eh, they sold them in Canada too, I’ve seen many of these garbage containers wobbling around on the roads here.

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      Not only does it fail to pass basic safety tests it’s also too heavy to drive on a normal licence in pretty much all the countries of the world. It weighs so much that it qualifies as a truck, not a pickup truck, a six wheeler. It’s so heavy it has to take alternate routes around old bridges.

      Even if it was legal in Europe, it’d be such an inconvenience to drive that no one would want one.

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      I just came back from a country full of Chinese cars…I gotta say there were some sexy ass solid feeling automobiles… Saw some tiny ones too, but I feel like I saw more busted rebadged tiny Chevys.

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      America only cares about the people buying cars.

      Those pedestrians can either buy Canyoneros of their own or go die with the poor.

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    Capitalism turning electric vehicles into a horrible, unproductive, ugly symbol of right wing fascism is wild as shit to see in my lifetime.

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      Car manufacturers promoting fascism are sadly a thing though. Ford loved Nazi ideology and let’s not even mention German brands.

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        It kinda makes a lot of sense I feel that they’d fit together. You have a form of transportation that is dangerous enough that requiring government licensing is generally agreed to be desirable, meaning that if its the primary option, a government can effectively take away a person’s ability to participate in public life or make a living, and easily justify it on safety grounds. Cars are expensive, so a government can both funnel money to its partners in private industry by promoting them, and subsidize them for the populations it considers “desirable” as a means to seem like it has created abundance and luxury (see how how the VW bug came to be for example). And, a society built around cars is one that tends towards physical separation and isolation between people (because of space inefficient infrastructure and relatively quick travel outside of densely built areas), which promotes distrust of others. Thats not to say that cars are inherently fascist or that most people that promote them do so to benefit that sort of ideology, but that if I was some kind of fascist dictator seeking to control a population, Id probably want to push them into buying and relying on cars.

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          Wouldn’t fascists, to the definition, want a cohesive nationalistic society and identity? Fascists want a strong nation.

          The Nazis promoted cars because nobody really had a car and they were coming out of a depression, they wanted to pump up their manufacturing industry for economic benefit and it was also a good excuse to build manufacturing capability for war. Cars were therefore very nationalistic, owning a car was good for Germany and German jobs.

          Pushing for cars in most places does not benefit national industry, and pushes money and jobs offshore.

          I feel like cars could only be potentially seen as a fascist tool if one were to ramp up national production of cars and tariff or ban imports of cars from other countries

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            Seems to me that it’s much easier to create a single cohesive nationalistic identity by destroying every other place where people can find identity. Which often involves groups of people interacting and finding ways to work together.

            Bit like how people with few real life social connections are much more likely to fall into parasocial relationships.

            Also a bit like the isolation step before the abuse starts.

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            Nice writeup!

            Wouldn’t it be too late for that today because everyone already has access to cars? I mean more than the “brand” thing (they could probably do fascist sneakers and handbags for example).

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        I wish we had more variation in car designs but I suppose it would make licencing difficult. I’d like it if we could drive with foot pedals, push down to accelerate and twist left and right to turn like how it works on an aircraft. Then you could drive hands-free.

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            Nah, but the crash after which four people burned to death while talking to the 911 dispatcher because they couldn’t open the doors happened just outside my city.

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              I’ve been in cars with electronic doors and the emergency latch is always super obvious, brightly coloured, and in one case glowed in the dark. For some reason Tesla feel the need to hide it.

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        How about sticking it somewhere between the engine and transmission? When operating it in the winter, your fingers would stay nice and warm.

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      I mean … I don’t hate it…

      Half of cars today have push-button shifters anyway, and the steering wheel is kind of a fun and novel place to put them.

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    Probably because the are so noticeable, but I see 2 or 3 of them on my way to/from work. Hard to tell them apart, but that is a lot in the 20 miles I go.

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        Ford also voluntarily recalled 1.5 million of them and addressed the fuel tank issue that caused the problem.

        “Fixing” the cybertruck would involve offering refunds scrapping them.

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          This is actually really funny, because Ralph Nader literally started his activist career pointing out that they didn’t in 1965.

          The book, critical of the automotive industry, argued that many American automobiles were generally unsafe to operate.

          Auto manufacturers were eventually forced to add seatbelts and protection for roll-overs.

          Nader’s book was cited as the reason to create what became the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

          When the original bill was passed,

          Speaker of the United States House of Representatives John William McCormack said the passage of the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act was brought about by the "crusading spirit of one individual who believed he could do something: Ralph Nader.”

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    Fun fact: the stainless steel body panels cannot effectively be repaired or refinished to insurance company standards, so if something should happen to even just cosmetically damage one of the main body panels, the entire vehicle is unrepairable and totalled.

    This is one of several reasons why the things are extremely expensive and difficult to insure. And, of course, it tells you how to do your part in making them even more expensive and difficult to insure.

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      On the second part, why don’t you just leave peoples vehicles alone? I mean I dont like Nissans either, but I’m not out laying subtle hints to damage people’s property because I don’t like them. That doesn’t make anyone sympathetic to a cause, it makes them more steadfast for whatever you are against. Absolute 1d thinking.

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        Not saying you should damage either, but are Nissans also impossibility dangerous to anybody else out in public? I am pretty sure if a Cybertruck drove into a pedestrian even in modest speed it would total both.

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        Hm. Maybe forming some kind of"flange" with holes in it on the edges of the body panel that you could use to secure it with a fastener of some sort … like clips and screws! Perhaps even plastic “push fasteners” that are easy to remove with a flat screwdriver!

        Brb, going to patent this original idea that’s never been done before.

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      I’d be more worried about the aluminum frame. Aluminum under cyclical stress will fatigue and eventually catastrophically fail. It’s why airlines have to constantly test aluminum parts so they can retire or replace them before they fail. It’s only a matter of time before cyber trucks start breaking in half while on the highway. It’s almost like there’s a reason no car manufacturers have made unibody frames out of aluminum before…