I do believe it’s not just one of the things to keep getting better, it’s a blueprint for the things we want to build in the future. From software to society. More individual participation, less corporate involvement, zero corporate ownership of essentials.
My current enemy is the stranglehold of corporate OSs in the mobile space. That really really needs to go for good.
Couldn’t have said it better.
On mobile we got the different Linux Phone OSes, unfortunately none of them come pre-installed (not counting the obsolete phones from Pine or Librem) and they’re still very much beta software. But they too get consistently better, both Plasma Mobile and Phosh make great strides.
Beautifully put.
I know this is a Linux community and therefore we love to hate on Windows…
but for anyone that hasn’t used Windows in a while, they actually finally implemented relatively decent package manager in the form of “winget”. When you add the wonderful UniGetUI on top of it you get a pretty good experience.
It had issues early on with consistency but the last ~year or two has seen it get a ton of improvement. It’s much more reliable than it used to be.
Obviously “it’s about goddamn time” and it doesn’t hold a candle to mature package manager like what’s available on Linux.
But if you’ve not experienced it before, and are forced to use Windows sometimes, it’s worth checking out.
I have a windows 10 install next to my Linux and I have to agree updates are awful. It might be windows 10 but 3 restarts for an update and the system runs like crap until the update installs. I removed a windows 11 install a while ago because I only used it to play 2 games and it might sit dormant for a few days or longer and when I got back into windows it was unusable until the updates finished. I am running 64GB of ddr4 and a 16 core amd ryzen 9 with a 16GB 9070xt. Hardware is not the issue in my opinion.
I unironically pacman -Syu’d today and it broke 3 applications that depended on ffmpeg (yes it did update ffmpeg correctly) all from official repos
Tried to build them all from source for like an hour but the compilation also fails, ended up symlinking the libavcodec.so into it’s previous’ version name and everything works again with zero issues (who designed this shit?)
brew updatesudo nixos-rebuild switchI know the advantage of nixos is super easy deployment but for a single desktop what advantage does it offer? I am an atomic fedora user myself.
A new hobby. 🙃
or
nh os switch .if you’re feeling fancy
Free as in freedom. One of the last living things from the hippie movement, by the people, for the people. No governments required.
eeehhh some of the largest contributors are sponsored by mega corps and governments, but yeah the leading ethos is FOSS
Returning to Linux reminded me that devs/tech people have a good sense of humour. Like the old days.
Gave me a chuckle that pacman launches pacmen(?) to nomnom for progress. Love it.
Promise: “Linux is cool! You can update and just use your running system while it handles it, then restart when you feel like it!”
Reality: “Heehee Linux is cool…wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka…”
.....C• • • • •You know, if some one created an in-terminal Pac-Man game to play during the update, that’d be awesome.
The best one is where the install size is negative that peak joy.
I’m glad I’m not alone in this joy
I love looking at my NixOs rebuild result (using nh) and seeing -50MB.
… Then I remember I’m on nixos and it doesn’t matter much
Do you not remove older versions? How much memory are you using?
And the system gets quicker!
winget isn’t perfect but it has improved things (and i say this as someone who switched to linux as a daily driver)
Ive said that Linux turned tech and computing back to fun for me, after hating interacting with computers and devices more and more. Linux is just fun to learn and rewarding.
Sometimes I have to remind myself how horrible locked down maliciously coded OS’s are and how good I have it with Linux.
The thing with Linux is that it’s 100% freedom. It lets you do whatever you want with it, there’s plenty of tools that facilitate customization and management.
By contrast, when I use windows at work I often find it won’t allow me to do what I want.
“What do you mean that’s not possible?”
No, no, I’ve crunched the numbers. I know this is possible on the x86/64 construction set. What the hell?
For someone living in linux for a while, interaction with windows is simply infuriating.
exactly. That and being forced into stuff I don’t want. The amount of times i’ve about exploded in anger at windows forcing updates on me that make everything worse…
Well, unless you have Nvidia drivers. Who knows what breaks this time.
Windows got so bad that Linux attracted genuine user base. 10/10 marketing from Microslop
Don’t hate, but I actually like the GUI update manager in Mint. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That’s a front end on apt. You’re just making it pretty.
Permit me to repeat what I said to a similar reply:
Oh, I’m well aware. It’s just that sometimes I like a cushion on my chair, you know?
That just runs apt and prints it nicely to you
That is exactly the sort of behavior every gui should do.
Oh, I’m well aware. It’s just that sometimes I like a cushion on my chair, you know?
It’s so simple but it’s huge for normies.
Exactly what I expect it to do!
Well, many of these softwares can’t do that properly, so…
I notice mine has updates outside of apt, but I’ve wondered if some are just duplicates that haven’t refreshed yet.
The key here IMO is that you decide both when and how.
No such option with Windows, but if you like the GUI and are used to using that, I don’t see why anyone of their right mind would have a problem with that.Personally I prefer to open a terminal and press the up key so I don’t have to type the command again, it takes 30 times until I get to the correct command, so it’s clearly slower, but hey we all have our little quirks.
history | grep <something I vaguely remember >
!<number of that command>
You can do reverse search but I’m too lazy to remember the sequence right now
ctrl R then type
Never tried history | grep though. Thanks for the tip!
Oh thanks for this. I’ve been using
history | grep $somethingfor the longest time, but i always end up copy pasting the actual command cause i didn’t remember how to invoke the number, and copy pasting is so quick that you end up never looking up how to do it properly lol.
Its all the same under the hood.
I had the problem that all old kernel images were kept when updating through the GUI updater. This led to my root partition getting fuller and fuller*. I needed some really obscure commands to remove those old images, since then I only update via terminal. I guess it was some kind of bug, but for me as a standard user it was a really serious one.
*I need to say I made the mistake of splitting root and home and giving the root partition only 40 GB, because I read internet advices about needing to change my distro frequently, turns out that was not the case
same here, and I don’t know how long ago you had this problem, but the GUI can handle that as well.
If you click the View menu, and choose Linux Kernels, it’ll give you a list of all installed and available kernels. You just need to click the “remove kernels” button and check the ones you no longer need for it to clean up.
(There is an option to remove old kernels automatically in Preferences-Automation but it doesn’t seem to work)
I don’t quite remember what I set as this was more than half a year ago. But the images couldn’t be removed as easily, also not from the GUI view, as they were somehow not registered in a certain list that should have shown them. And since then I just use the terminal out of habit.
However I just found an article about Mint removing old kernels once a week automatically.
That’s actually easier on regular Mint than LMDE, but the advanced Synaptic package manager works on both to remove old kernels.
… but they’re adding a dedicated kernel management tool for both versions in the next releases if I understand their most recent blog correctly.
Like the native Mint tools, it’s basically a front-end to apt and related commands.
As a long time windows user who has switched to CachyOS, I agree, even get notifications about updates
I like a GUI updater but the Plasma Discover one is so shit, it errors almost every time. I keep it for updating the odd flatpak, etc, but I always have to update from the terminal first.
Shelly is amazing for Arch. Both CLI and GUI.
apt upgrade -UDoes both update and upgrade.
One fun thing about Linux is that you always learn
I don’t want to learn. I have job to do.
You don’t learn things at your job? Damn, you must not be a good employee.
Learning OS wizardry is counterproductive. I have more important stuff to do.
Windows is usable without os wizardry? I know it used to be, but that wasn’t my experience last time I used it.
Dude on mint I just open terminal and type apt install (thing I want). All dependencies handled. No fuckery. No bullshit.
So you don’t learn OS wizardry and don’t fuck around with working machine when there is stuff to do, duh. This doesn’t depend on OS in use
Then you can use Linux Mint, super easy.
Alias na=“Sudo nala upgrade -y”
Does update and upgrade with parallel downloads from fast high bandwidth repos and pretty colors 😍
Whelp. Dang. Guess I know what I’m trying on my Ubuntu & Debian VMs next :D
Good to know. I just have a script that does like everything in order, but I could save a line by doing that instead of both beinv separate commands.
emerge -auDN @worldAlso:
gr ~/.src # (script I wrote myself to update code repos) cd ~/.src/repo make -j8 doas make install
