Damn, I hope this is not goodbye to uncensored models 😢

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    So they are just slapping random price tags on things now. It’s a database of AI questions. They have paid 13 billion dollars for a database, and everyone’s acting like that’s a perfectly rational sensible thing to do. No one in the financial industry has any sense anymore.

    A company that’s only product is something that people either don’t want or actively hate has paid an eye-watering amount of money for a database to train their product on, this training will have no effect whatsoever on whether people want it.

    I have this nice bridge with lots of training examples if anybody’s interested, 100 trillion dollars please

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      ngl the first image on their website is pretty much all the explanation you need

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      hosts all the ai models and is the primary resource for downloading them for pretty much all kinds, like depthmaps, masking too, also llms, inage generators, etc.

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    Remember, the whole AI scheme exists to take the very concept of ownership from us. This takeover is hostile.

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    They should put up a back up torrent of all the currently available models before transferring ownership. Thus opening the doors for future websites.

    NVIDIA is probably trying to shutdown the LLM-at-home market (which means you don’t need huge clouds of graphics cards or even an Internet connection). Sad day for people who like to control their data.

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      I heard somewhere they are buying it because their own development platform sucks. So they are going to replace it with hugging face.

      Which doesn’t preclude them from locking all the good stuff behind a subscription, of course.

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      Before any of these news I would use modelscope occasionally, it is the same thing as huggingface but Chinese and with a massive collection of mcp servers. Although they do not have the same amount of merged and fine tuned models, they are still a pretty good service

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    I fail to understand the use of the term open source when the resource itself can be bought by oligarchs. Like organic vegetables, or clean coal.

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      7 hours ago

      I’ve downloaded a terabyte worth of models and didn’t pay a cent. storage and bandwidth cost money

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      12 hours ago

      Is there something unique about hugging face that the models cannot be hosted elsewhere? I see open source as more important to Nvidia than anyone else because it sells hardware. The services’ motivations are only partially aligned with Nvidia.

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        I think it’s mainly just the huge amount of storage. Huggingface has been burning venture capital money for the insane among of storage space they need, afaik

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          I’ve never understood why they don’t seed torrents for those huge files. So much money on bandwidth that they just don’t need to spend.

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          I don’t see how they could be burning considerable amounts of money on storage, as long as they have setup their own infrastructure and don’t rent it.

          I don’t know how much they’re storing, I guess they’re in the petabyte territory. That’s what, a few tens of millions of dollars of up front investment?

          Not free, but not such a huge amount of money.

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            All they do is store tho, they dont profit off that I imagine, I honestly have no clue

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    My question is what their motivation is.

    • Do they want to close down open models so more is directed at the frontier/closed companies (OpenAI/Anthropic)?
    • Or are they trying to diversify and push open models as a safety net for when the bubble bursts