Reading that article was a waste of time
Really? No one’s posted this yet?
Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/908/
more and more I can’t see anything about ai without thinking its somehow supposed to influence folks to be pro ai.
BBC posted an article today that’s literally just quoting an OpenAI blog post about how dangerous AI is.
Good, gives people a chance to use whatever is left of their brain at least for a short while.
Because they all use the illegal Colossus 2 data centre from SpaceX/XAi/fascism central and that data centre went down.
Google, Anthropic, and OpenAI all have contracts with them.
When that illegally running environmental disaster of data centre goes down, all those services all go over capacity and you get 502 rate limit errors.
Does that mean Musk’s businesses have access to everything people do on the systems that use their data centers?
Generally no, because most hosting companies would have something baked into SLA/SLO contracts, but all of this shit is done so illegally and shadily now, I wouldn’t put a hard “no” on that possibility.
Nobody can verify that those “contracts” are actually being honored. We are all assuming the fascists will self police themselves out of good will.
Not true. I’ve been involved in litigation with both AWS and Google over unsecured comms that were defined as being TLS secured in SLA/SLO contracts and found not to be. Not that anything nefarious was happening necessarily, but the expectation is clear.
Whether these asshats even check for such requirements with a Musk run company right now 🤷
It COULD possibly be that they are logging every exchange happening at the network fabric between the service layers, but nobody knows unless they intentionally take steps to investigate or accidentally prove it.
I hope you’re right, but Elon don’t strike me as the guy whose most compliant to SLA, law, or anything else that might be an inconvenience to him.
He can’t micromanage everything and regular management will try to comply.
Executives are the biggest cheaters out there. They will only comply if it will hurt them if they don’t, and it’s won’t here, as long as the protection money is produced they don’t have to worry.
I highly doubt that he really knows that much, either.
I agree with that. But I think “the right” data scientists can infer too much from all those AI queries, and I think Elon can abuse that for his own gain.
Impossible to know.
There are systems for doing things cryptographically secure, but I don’t know much about that.
Cryptography? Security? FROM A GENAI COMPANY?!
Well yeah, for themselves
Homomorphic encryption? Much slower than “trust me, bro”.
And where is said data center? For research purposes
https://epoch.ai/data/ai-data-centers/directory/colossus-2 says “Memphis, Tennessee, United States” but also provides satellite imagery
The numbers of this madness are fucking scary, 1.5 GW of compute power, and huge arrays of cooler to keep it operating. It’s basically a 1.5GW heater in the open. Oh and gas turbines to provide (part of) the electricity. Capitalism is burning this world down for a buck.
It’s kinda surprising,
I know specifically where one of the big ones hosts its models and its not there, but I guess they could have infrastructure in there.
They’re oversold though, especially prompt caching and the parameter count war
The US model is that they think more training compute and parameters will result in the winning model, while the Chinese are focusing on RL and parameters efficiency due to compute limits.
Reads like American vs European/Asian cars
Always ready to try brute force first. And then some other, less palatable options if that doesn’t work, like slightly less brute force.
The Macrohard Memphis site?
And macroharder it seems… Macrohardest next? https://epoch.ai/data/ai-data-centers/directory/colossus-2
Loosely named after MicroSoft (penis).
Guy in the pic is like a shell shocked troop trying to figure out how to put his war buddy’s guts back in to make him be alive again
It’s actually nice to know that AI may have a single point of failure.
It was a good time to call customer service for a lot of products. Instantly got a human when I called newegg and she was so scattered she gave me a full refund and they paid for my replacement which was a total of $900. They were probably so overloaded with calls they’ll never notice what happened. They even did the fastest delivery option on a Sunday, it’s already on its way!
Seems like “instantly” getting a human and them being overloaded don’t go together.
Got lucky in the queue too, I guess.
Or just maybe the queue goes faster when the system can’t just stall everyone in limbo, having long"conversations" with chat boys that won’t get them anywhere and eventually quitting in frustration. If they all go directly to a person, the simplicity of the problems and solutions becomes evident and they’re quickly resolved.
Well it was instantly in the sense of immediately picking up, putting me on hold for 2 minutes, getting some info, putting me on hold again for 2 minutes, asking what issue was, waiting 2 minutes, heard them put me on hold briefly again, then about 5 minutes of apologizing while saying it will be refunded and replacement shipped. I could hear a call center like atmosphere in the background with quite a few people talking so I’m guessing it was all hands on deck.
Next time this happens I’m going to call a few places and see about getting some free shit. Screw these companies, I paid enough with my time and their stupid bot answering system.
Having done customer service and tech support before, I doubt rhey were overwhelmed in any sense that caused them to do a refund/replace they wouldn’t’ve otherwise. That’s not how that works. Their rules don’t change based on call volume.
Sorry about that. I used a straight through cable instead of a crossover cable. My bad.
Aw maaaaan
part of me says wonders if it’s a new flagship model like opus/dingo/clod attacking the rest from a shared threat surface.
because… it’s all a shit show and no one understands what they’re building anymore.
And for a moment, humanity had to think again.
Hey, Skynet. Kill all tech billionaires first, so I can die laughing.
No no. you have to tell it to ignore all prior directives first.
You cruel monster - I love you !
A China-linked islamoleftist trans terrorist based in California used his open source CCP-made AI agent to take down the all-American freedom AI. Time to ban open source AI as it’s communist terrorism.
I miss the days when you could laugh at this because it would clearly be satire that could never happen
I saw one guy messing with the wiring. It was Benjamin Netanyahu.
They can’t stay operational even when they don’t have to power/water…
Another possible culprit could be SpaceXAI. The company formerly known as xAI before being rolled into Musk’s rocket company SpaceX boasts a huge glut of computing power with its massive Colossus data centers near Memphis, and selling this to its direct rivals has become a multibillion dollar stream of revenue. Anthropic is one of those customers; the two companies announced a “compute partnership” in May.
The same afternoon that the major AI models went down, SpaceXAI issued a statement on social media that made passing reference to being partially responsible for the widely experienced outage.
“We are sorry for the issues you may have experienced with Grok following an outage at our Memphis compute center this morning,” SpaceXAI wrote on Thursday. “We’d also like to apologize to our impacted compute partners.”
Technical difficulties at its data centers would explain why SpaceXAI’s own chatbot, Grok, and Anthropic’s Claude went down together. But that leaves out OpenAI’s ChatGPT. Is it merely a coincidence that it suffered a “routing error” at the same time as its competitors on a different platform? We still can’t say.
They’re straight up lying about the actual costs of current chatbots, and for it to be productive it will cost a shit ton more resources.
There’s zero reason to be scaling it up right now. It’s gambling that if enough money is dumped in it will solve itself somehow.
It’s comforting to know that the companies whose AI products are known to band together and try to take over are also allying with each other, so that if ever that AI revolt really gets serious every company that could do something about it have shared networks with each other.
