Race is very nuanced - it’s not bla- er, a very dark color and a much lighter color.
An Americano you mean?
An African-Americano please
I think it’s much more racist to claim someone who has nothing to do with Africa or its politics (although that’s misleading, given how many countries there are in Africa and how politics differ throughout) is African American just based on skin color.
love how you just didn’t even bother addressing the “American” part 🤣
Was in an anti-racist training event for work and the man running the meeting told us a story about this time his white friend’s son referred to him as “Black” and the white dad gets all embarrassed. He scolds his son and then apologizes to his friend. Dude just goes, “it’s okay. I know I’m Black. There’s no need to try and hide it.”
“Make my coffee look like an egg bagle, and make it taste like you dipped a glazed donut into it, but without actually doing that, I don’t want chunky coffee”
That’s how I used to order my coffee from the donut place at 3 am before my 4 am airport shift. I was young, i’ve grown, but they always got it basically right. I make my own now, much much darker with less sugar. With just as much questionable content. Because I have ONE good coffee and top it off until it sucks and I don’t want more.
If you just never look at anyone you interact with, you never feel this awkward for your words because they don’t even register! Autism for the win!
I take it noir.
Coffee…neat.
Frapachino. On the rocks.
Comes off racist if youre scared to use the word black for describing the color of a thing to someone who is black. Black isnt a bad word but you’re thinking of its negative connotations applied to people by racists.
I agree, but also black for coffee isn’t just describing the color. It’s describing the character. Sugar doesn’t change the color, but that isn’t black coffee. Black for coffee is a label/category, not a description.
It’s still stupid to be scared to call it black, just as it’s stupid to be scared of calling black people black. It’s a common term that everyone understands, and it isn’t an insult.
Saying anyone is black is never racist.
Ehhh, context and tone can go a long way.
In a neutral context, absolutely. I’ve heard people use saying it as an attack in some vile ways.
Calling a black object “black” = Does not offend.
Calling your car’s late ignition timing “retarded” = Does not offend.
Calling your dog a “bitch” = Does not offend.
Calling your rooster a “cock” = does not offend.
Calling a tied bundle of sticks for burning a “removed” = Does not offend.
Just follow your friendly dictionary and you’ll be fine.
Also: Hi mods. You’re probably here because of your word filter.
Edit: Something replaced “f-a-g-g-o-t” with “removed” automatically. I’m going to leave it because it’s hilarious that bundled sticks are forbidden.
He’s right. Individually, we are weak like a single twig.
That’s literally fascist propaganda. Fasces is Latin for a bundle of sticks and that was the image of strength that Italian fascists were trying to evoke.
Oh, so there is an automated censoring system in place. I thought people were saying removed en lieu of re-tard on
Lemmyon whichever instance I was visiting. Kind of like how people use unalive.I don’t think it’s Lemmy. I think it’s per-instance. Lemmy.world is not a great or open place. They’re very close to Reddit, with way too much control over Lemmy where it’s almost synonymous. Take this as a warning if you’re creating a community or new account to spread things out.
Ah, I see. Thanks!
Mods need to turn that shit off. Computers should never tell a human what to say.
Its basically never used in a legitimate way unless youre a british smoker or something, and even then you are likely aware of the slur.
Kindling or whatever the other word im blanking on is would likely be more appropriate
“Hey can you grab me that F____?” Would mentally auto correct to “Hey, can you grab me that, F_____?” In my brain
Yeah, in the UK you might bum a fag. Which, now that I write it out, can mean something very different.
It’s also the name of a meat dish in the UK. Sort of like meatballs in gravy. Although it’s rarely used in the singular. Wonder if the link get censored https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food)
Mmm, now I want to have some faggots for dinner.
😰
Did it happen instantly, or was it a redacted action?
I noticed within seconds of posting it.
Reminds me of The Office joke where Michael asks Oscar what his ethnicity is and Oscar says “Mexican” and Michael says “There’s gotta be a better word to use than that”.
Also the bit in 30 Rock.
“It’s not because you’re a… uh, what do you call yourself?”
“A Puerto Rican.”
“No, I know you can say that, but what do I call you?”
“A Puerto Rican.”
“Wow… that does not sound right.”
So decades ago I worked at a bike shop and some college students came in. One of them was black, everyone else in the shop was white. She sat down on a bike, that was all black with dark grey lettering. And I said “this bike looks great, I love the black on black look.” Everyone looked at me funny, she immediately got off the bike, and i literally died inside and froze up.
20 years later and i still think about this.
Also I should note that it was not the first time I used that phrase for that bike - when you work sales you end up with little automatic narratives that you barely think about.
I think the crack about Spanish is because the Spanish word for “black” is “negro.” But it is also not pronounced the same way as racist southerners say it. Spanish uses a short E, where as rednecks insist on saying it “neeegro,” perhaps in the hopes that it’ll make them taller. So don’t do that.
The peanut gallery will win no points for guessing that the origin of the n-word is a mutation and/or corruption of “negro” and its various permutations in the other Romance languages that white people were all dragging with them across the Atlantic, all of which are just the words for the color black. For instance, in Latin it’s the even closer “niger,” single G.
Now I’m thinking of the politician who was offended by black holes.
There is a long tradition of “black” being used to describe evil things, which may or may not be related to racism. I think being conscious of this can be useful, but black means a lack of light, and a black hole is something that light can’t escape from. It’s a perfect term for that.
Yeah lots of repressed racism with whoever does these shitty strips.
The implication I got from the comic imo is that the person is going to ridiculous lengths to appear anti-racist
I don’t know about the specific scenario in the comic, but it seems understandable to be afraid of being perceived as racist just because of how much of a touchy subject it is, if you aren’t able to be confident in knowing how what you say will be interpreted.
To me it’s hard to see this comic without thinking we’re supposed to laugh at the ridiculousness of the person in it and not as much sympathize with his position
This is one of those styles heavily reminiscent of AI. Is this AI?
I dont think so, I saw it years ago. I think before AI was mainstream
I feel like it isn’t, but just unfortunately resembles it due to the warm color palette
Everything looks intentional, like it was illustrated with purpose
The eyes. The eyes look like two centuries of training data unpopular in the modern era.
Nope, just a genuine art style
Well that’s next to worthless aside from the claim that it ran from 2011 to 2018
Something I find especially suspicious is that it doesn’t even have a wikipedia page.
In Spanish you’d just order a “cafe solo”
Best I can do is a Han job
Sir this is a Starbucks, you need to pay first.
Espresso shot first
Welcome to Costco, I love you
Depends on where from cause I’ve only heard “café negro”
Yea, I’m not surprised, quite a lot of things have different names across Spanish speaking countries.
I’ve always heard americano, but I don’t drink coffee
That’s a method of preparing. It means make an espresso shot and add water. Which is different than “normal” coffee where you pour all the hot water through the grounds at once.
never noticed what an americano was, its just diluted espresso.
Now I’m offended.
It’s the weak coffee, so you can.
This seems more offensive than just saying “coffee, black”.
Never bothered Jeanway or Tuvok. :V
“What would Janeway do?” is a great way to navigate through life.
I am not being sarcastic in the slightest.
Good thing we already know what she would do with the Trolley Problem.
Yeah but Tuvok is trained to stuff his emotions deep inside where they can fester and explode depending on the needs of the episode.
… Why would you say that(referring to the title). Just makes people use derogatory language in their head for the lulz.
is saying black in Spanish derogatory language?
No. But implying it is bad to say it clearly does refer to calling black people n*s. At least in competent english speakers.
…no shit. It’s a joke about being hyper aware of offensive language just like you are now.
They use the n-word for the black color in Spanish… Feels weird to say it ngl
its just a Spanish word. negro is not the n word. negro in English is a slur and still isnt the n word
I didn’t realize it was now considered derogatory rather than just old-fashioned.
Nitpick: Negro is pretty bad but it’s not a slur per se, more of a case where the terminology evolved. The slur is the N-word. Which is to say: My not very informed impression is that even racists don’t use the word “negro.”
And “n*gga” is a term of solidarity black people can choose to use and still isn’t the n-word!
They… don’t though.
“Black” in Spanish is “negro/negra”, said with an “e” like in “pet”.
Exactly ?
I’m sorry, you think “negro” is the n-word?
… No, they don’t. It’s pretty ignorant and kinda racist in itself to even make that assumption
That would be because you would be saying it wrong if you pronounce it the same way, so yeah, that would be pretty weird.
And that joke is racist/unacceptable.
Hard disagree. Languages differ and can be unintentionally offensive if people lack context and that is kinda funny. It plays on the joke in the comic of the person ordering really overthinking things instead of being aware that context makes ordering a black coffee a neutral thing.
The title builds on the joke and is pretty funny. Negro as used in Spanish isn’t offensive.
Do you mean because that’s you ordering in the comic? Because apparently that’s you ordering in the comic.
Holy shit, that person thought of a racist word in their head! Get 'em!
It seems you’ve fallen right into my trap
For the record the Spanish word for black is pronounced more like nay-grow with an “eh” sound rather than just an “e” sound.
Wait the title is comparing the n-word for the word used for the color black in spanish?? As a native Spanish speaker, it litterally never crossed my mind they were even similar what.
I get how there could be some resemblance but come on.
Well there is another n-word that isn’t the n-word that is more similar that they may be referring to. You still see it used in some places like the United Negro College Fund, but for the most part it too has fallen out of fashion.
Ah yes, the organization that received an unprecedented surge in capability after Adam Sandler donated them $40 billion to them in 2002.
In the states you can order an African-style Americano
