I guess everyone saw this „documentary” at school ;)
Meanwhile, Super High Me is still 100% solid gold cinema.
It might have something to do with me being European, but I don’t even specifically remember the liver damage, and I’ve watched it a lot. Mostly the shock of the sizes in general and how unhealthy he looked while on the diet - the oily skin and the belly that formed.
Of course, this doesn’t take away from the fact he should have been more honest about intake in a documentary, but also, you know, alcoholism. Lying about how much you drink is kind of a part of it for most people.
yeah fast food is disgusting. that’s about right
Trevor Moore had his number - https://youtu.be/uOyjzE1vcD4?
RIP
He also made a documentary ‘Where in the World is Osama bin Laden?’.
He, I shit you not, correctly guessed that he was hiding in Abbottabad, Pakistan.
If only he wasn’t a raging alcoholic. Kinda fucks up the whole ‘health conscious’ vibe here — even if he was absolutely correct that fast food is just fucking bad for you.
I think he died tho
Huh, so he did, of cancer in May 2024.
The McDonalds is INSIDE THE HOUSE!
Again about this? McD shills have nothing better to do than infiltrate 4Chan now?
McDonald’s isn’t good food, nor is it good for you, byt being disingenuous in what is supposed to be a documentary is also not good. Calling out a liar doesn’t mean you’re a shill for the one who’s being lied about.
Sure sure. But he got his point across which seems to require drama, more than scientific accuracy, to reach the target demo. And I’m pretty sure on that front, mission accomplished : McD had to bend over from the public outcry.
So again : who the fuck benefits from telling us, again and again from what I’ve seen in the last few months, that he wasn’t scientifically accurate and a paragon of intellectual integrity, despite his message being right?
Hmm, this approach feels so familiar…
Lol what? “Lying about reality to get your point across is good actually!” What in the maga fashy nonsense kind of take is that?
It also doesn’t help that he didn’t actually achieve anything. Mcds is still popular, still unhealthy, and he gave people more ammo to fat shame.
He wasn’t lying about McDonalds being bad for your health. That was his point.
And just because it is still popular doesn’t mean he hasn’t converted a couple of people. Every little bit helps.
No, he wasn’t lying about it being bad, he was lying about the effects it had on his body and his severe it was.
Lying to get your point across isn’t really “helping”, that’s how you sew distrust in science and documentaries. It’s straight up anti vax logic. Just because his root point was correct doesn’t make his lying good. This sort of stuff is what emboldens anti vaxers etc.
He was consuming a fuck ton of alcohol and it skewed the results of the demonstration and he kept it secret from the film and the doctors he worked with.
I don’t think McDonald’s is healthy but we don’t need to lie to make the point.
It wasn’t “mission accomplished,” there was essentially no difference between the Supersize meals that were discontinued and the large meals that still exist to this day. The movie achieved no positive goals for the general public, and (arguably) helped solidify the general public’s perception that fat people wouldn’t be fat anymore if they stopped going to McDonalds.
A misinformation/propaganda greentext from 4chan? Say it ain’t so.
I don’t know if Morgan was an alcoholic or not, it’s unfortunate if he was, but if you are eating a combined high fat and high sugar (particularly high fructose, as found in soda) diet like he was, you are going to fuck with your liver for sure, regardless. Especially if there is no exercise as well. Quickest way to fatty-liver disease.
But sure, do a favor for the sugar lobby and blame it all on one guy’s alleged alcoholism. It’s not like he’s around to clarify things anymore, or anything.
Not disinformation. A 2006 study explicitly studied and showers that while a heavy diet fast food diet is not good for your liver, it cannot explain the extremely poor liver conditions Morgan presented in the documentary.
10 years later, Morgan admitted that he was a heavy alcoholic during filming.
Fast-food-based hyper-alimentation can induce rapid and profound elevation of serum alanine aminotransferase in healthy subjects - PMC - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2565580/
A Big Mac Attack, or a False Alarm? - WSJ - https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-big-mac-attack-or-a-false-alarm-1527114255
WKUK unintentionally nailed it lol
I don’t know if Morgan was an alcoholic or not
he was. and he kept it a secret during the documentary. There’s even a moment in it where the doc basically said “I only see values like this in alcoholics” This alone basically completey invalidates anything in the documentary. regardless of any health problems fastfood might cause.
In 2017, Spurlock – who previously told his doctors he did not drink – admitted to copious amounts of alcohol consumption during the making of the film. Documentary filmmaker Phelim McAleer questioned whether this may better account for Spurlock’s liver issues and other health problems, since it is uncertain whether he changed his alcohol intake during the experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me#Counter-claims
https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-big-mac-attack-or-a-false-alarm-1527114255
We had to watch the first part of it several times over in school and I don’t really understand what the point was. Usually got started in the lesson and then the lesson ended but it would never get finished later.
What, eating vast quantities of fast food every day is bad for you? Of course it is, are you fucking retarded?
As someone from the long long ago, it’s funny seeing this post. For my generation, this has the same vibe as “of course smoking is bad for you”, meanwhile the generation before mine was saturated in tobacco smoke and normalized tobacco culture. Sure, there was always an undercurrent that it was bad, but there wasn’t the vehement rejection of it like today.
You could go back further again and do it with something like not wearing seatbelts. The value of seatbelts is obvious now, but it wasn’t always part of the zeitgeist.
The same goes for fast food. We knew it wasn’t great, but healthy eating awareness was hardly a thing back then, especially compared to what it is today. It is precisely because of things like Supersize Me raising awareness, (even ham-fistedly in retrospect) and changing the culture, that we get to call out that shit as obvious today.
You had to be there. You’re welcome.
People fought drunk driving measures, antilock brakes, seatbelts and airbags.
This was exactly my thought; feels similar to people’s response to PSAs regarding forest fires: “you had to be told to put out camp fires or check they’re fully put out?”
Clearly, history indicates that concepts don’t stick unless drilled into “common cultural sense”.
I think one of the reasons he did it was an executive from McDonald’s had stated that their food was healthy and someone could eat it everyday for a month without health consequences. His goal was to prove this was an obvious lie. Secondly how many low income people are stuck in a system where this is the only food that is conveniently available and how that is making generations of low-income households sick.
Not sure about the alcoholism - but this wasn’t a strict scientific trial so…
Not buying the low income excuse, when I was on low income I would have loved to have enough money to be able to afford fast food every day. If I had been doing that I wouldn’t have been able to afford rent.
I don’t go to mcdonalds but just looked up their prices. A single “big arch” (wtf is that? first thing on the menu) for £10, about the same as a weeks worth of food with the sort of things I was getting poverty shopping.
You may not know this but when it was made McDonald’s was vastly cheaper than it is today. Double cheeseburgers were just a single dollar. It’s somewhat difficult to achieve a multi ingredient hot meal for that price with groceries and it requires doing meal prep and reheating. Today’s McDonald’s is way more expensive which completely invalidates the case for eating it at all outside the breakfast menu (actual eggs).
I am aware of inflation
Not inflation, the price has increased far beyond the inflation rate as McDonald’s struggled to stay profitable and adjusted their strategy and posture (mccafe era).
Prices on takeout have gone insane post-covid.
When was this? Because of seriously doubt it cost £10 for a McDonald’s meal back in in 2004. That would have been $20USD at a time when you could still get a Big Mac from the dollar menu
It was a few hours ago, poverty shopping would also have been cheaper in 2004.
So back when Super Size me came out, you could easily feed a family of 4 for like $10. Now McDonald’s is as much as getting a burger from a sit down restaurant and takes forever because they have transitioned to doing Doordash for whatever reason
I eat more food in a week than 4 people do for a single meal, so the same would apply. Plus buying ingredients to make food would also have been cheaper back then.
Not to defend him, but in the documentary he said that he would say yes every time a McDonald’s employee asked him if he wanted a supersize portion.
So at least he was showing how much McDonald’s wanted you to eat as much as possible. This lead to McDonald’s removing their supersize portions.
My takeaway when I watched it was that it’s the fries and drink that are bad for you. He interviewed the eccentric guy who ate Big Macs every day and was skinny/healthy, probably because he never ate fries or drank the sugary drinks.
As opposed to restaurants which still do just drop 2500 calories on the plate and call it a day?
Getting people to understand something in concept is pretty easy. I can presently berate you about like 15 things you’re currently doing poorly, but that won’t cause you to drink in my meaning and improve. The US is full of fatties who are draining the healthcare system’s available time.
Putting the onus on people to change, and shaming fast food companies for providing meals that actively detract from the quality of life of everyone in the US, that was the purpose.
But making healthy foods more accessible and easier would have been my pick.
The US is full of fatties who are draining the healthcare system’s available time.
That’s mean.
It’s also true. Aside from the elderly, I’m the only thin person in the waiting room, every time.
Just like most of the ineffectual berating I’ve encountered.
It’s a cheese burger. No worse than any other meal. Bit too salty.
Stop blaming the restaurant because fatties can’t control themselves. I’m so tired of you people annoying the crazies into fascism.
The cheeseburger isn’t even the problem btw, the fries are way worse for you at McD.
And the bucket of sugar water.
Still just a fry in oil.
What, eating vast quantities of
fastfood every day is bad for you? Of course it is, are you fucking retarded?FTFY
Morgan died of cancer a couple years ago. Probably nothing to do with the raging alcoholism and the mcbinge
TIL
when the doctor tells him he’s pickling his liver, then abruptly refuses to appear on camera again, that should have been a pretty serious giveaway.
I haven’t even clicked the link yet and I’m already laughing at “I bet I can jump down all these stairs and land on my side!”
Came looking, glad I found
oh great now you got me hungry for pickled liver
is there like foie gras but instead of fat goose iiver it’s like alcoholic goose liver
there’s the ortolan bunting, a small bird similar to a finch or sparrow, which in France is caught wild, fattened, drowned and marinated in brandy, plucked, roasted, and eaten whole, liver (and bones, and everything except the beak) included
Finally, ethically sourced foie gras!
Side effect: you are now drunk.
This shit did tons of damage in the food education areas. So many morons, included here, screeching at McDonald’s.
It’s a cheap salty burger. Nothing more, nothing less.
The fries don’t decompose.
Neither does anything else that is salted to all hell. Salted meat and brine-pickled stuff were some of the earliest ways to make things last for months. And I guarantee that in the right conditions, the fries will decompose just fine.
Oh, really?
I’ve never heard that my people’s process of brining & dessicating seafood would allow it to be stored without refrigeration until juuuust now.
It’s not even really salt. It’s just dryness.
McDonald’s food can be kept from decomposition when laid out flat to be dried out from the ambient low humidity air. But that is true of any other burger or fries of the same size.
And when kept in a moist/humid environment, the McDonald’s food will mold and rot, just like any other similar food in that environment.
but not enclosed in epoxy resin! and that, my friends, is the decomposition that counts.
/r/IamveryCulinary material right here.
I don’t use Reddit, silly.
Still really fun to watch lol
Thats exactly the lifestyle of millions of USAmericans tho, so it carries value regardless.
It’s a lie, but it fits my narrative so free pass. Got it 👌.
No. “Its a lie for this individual but the truth for millions of people”. Those are not the same thing.
👌👍
Pretty much sums up western culture. The amount of people who do this and cannot admit it are a plurality. The stupidity is not bound by any single ideology. Western culture produces morons.
There are not millions of Americans eating the largest possible McDonalds meals for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. That has never been reality.
If for no other reason, that’s like $20-40 of spending every day ($600-$1,200 in a 30-day month), and most Americans don’t have that much money for food.
