Will there be a chance that companies will optimize their applications perhaps?
Absolutely not. Just look at games these days. Number one complaint: everything runs poorly. Optimisation is an afterthought. If it runs like shit? We’ll blame the customer. A lot of games now run like trash on even the most high end graphics cards. Companies don’t seem to give a shit.
Vote with your wallet I guess.
Feels less like time travel and more like cost-cutting dressed up as progress.
People being forced to run windows 11 with 8gb ram is going to be hilarious.
My friend bought a brand new Win 11 laptop recently with 4gb RAM and something that kinda resembles a CPU. In it’s default state it couldn’t browse the internet. It also has EMMC storage so that is slow as well. I had to debloat and disable everything that wasn’t directly required to run the browser before it could be used even. But it was $100 CAD new so I guess you get what you pay for.
Holy shit, will AI cause the Linux renaissance?
It’s already doing it. Steam data showed a 100% increase in Linux clients after a “one too many” Windows updates fucked something up last year.
Note: it’s still hovering around the margin of error, but it’s strengthening. I think it went from 1.5% to 3%.
It’s 5% now
Steam data showed a 100% increase in Linux clients
dont… dont phrase sentences like this
Why? It’s objective truth - it went from 1.5% to 3%, which is a 100% increase.
Shit, it barely runs on 16GB anymore!
"You’ll own nothing
and you’ll be happy"Welcome to the future!
I have an HP laptop with a Ryzen 5 3500U and 8GB RAM. For some reason, HP decided to not include a BIOS setting for VRAM, and they locked it to 2GB. So, the usable memory is 6GB, which is low even for Linux.
Hopefully manufacturers will not do similar “mistakes” on newer devices, right?
So, the usable memory is 6GB, which is low even for Linux.
Most Linux distros recommend (not minimum) 4GB of RAM on their system requirements pages. I’m running Debian on a laptop with 4GB and it’s perfectly usable. You might want to try a different distro if it’s struggling with 6GB.
I think igpu maxes out at 2 gb for dedicated. Besides windows will share ram with igpu. Linux too.
Edit: now I understand. That is unfortunate.
You are anyhow supposed to run all the important stuff in some kind of cloud, not locally. That exactly feeds into their plan.
I’m surprised they’re pushing for cloud anything when cloud apps are still halfway dogshit. Like the 365 suite on the web.
the webapps are so bloated they don’t even fit in small ram!
A guy at work wrote a script to automate something for a department. The script was, I don’t know, sub-100 lines of JavaScript. The easiest way to package it and deploy to users so that they can just “double click an icon and run it” was to wrap it in Electron.
The original source file was 8 KB.
The application was 350 MB.
I’m not opposed to this, but we (the users) need control over that cloud.
The cloud is basically by definition someone else’s computer, kind of inherently opposed to user control
Yes. But you can still have a private VM in the cloud.
How is that “private”? You would need to encrypt the memory somehow, but then the key to that is also somewhere in the cloud’s software/hardware… Afaik there is no possible way to make a truly private remote VM
If your threat model involves spying on that level, sure, self-hosting at home is probably warranted. What I mean is that I’d rather have one powerful computer and the rest, laptop, phone, etc, use that resource instead of each device being an island. I don’t want my files spread out over so many devices, I want access to everything from everything.
Private if you trust the provider. Any system can be breached.
Why would I give you more RAM to do all the things you want with it?
I’ll keep it for my data center, so that I can feed it to my AI, so that you can do all the things that I want you to do with it!
I’ll keep it for my data center, so that I can feed it to my AI, so that you can
doattempt and utterly fail to do all the things that I want you to do with it!Fixed it for you
Thank you Mr. Tech CEO! Very nice! Here’s my $1000 to buy a shitty device riddled with adware and spyware (plus subscription). Feel free to give some of this sum to a maniac politician!
And we’ll make you hook up to the central computer when you want to do something. You don’t even need 8GB for that!
Well, to see the bright side: Perhaps this will force developers to at least think about optimizing their software…
Modern Devs: “8 Gb??? That’s 2 chrome tabs!”
Lol, they’re gonna make it SaaS and move it to the cloud before that happens.
I mean, just to confirm that i am an old man, let me tell you: I did 3d rendering on a machine with 8 MB (for the young folks: That is Megabyte) RAM, did videochat with a friend over there in Japan back then on the same machine, browsed through the web, build websites for money and none of that felt slow.
I started with 32MB, and I agree (aside from browsing the internet and having to wait for an image to load). I never get tired of linking to this blog post, which captures my feelings perfectly.
This is excellent and captures my feelings exactly as well!
Nope. They will just shift blame to something else.
Hello $user,
Memoryleak™ 4.20 has minimum system requirements that includes 32Gb of memory.
Hope this helps
Go fuck yourself, Memoryleak™ support team
Or shift the processing to the cloud, we are going back to mainframe computing
Why even make 8gb chips anymore?
I mean if it really could send us back, that would be just swell
This is not how I wanted programmers to stop wasting RAM
Surely you don’t expect developers not to ship an entire web browser as a dependency for their application?
“8 GB is fine for a laptop”
- me who uses an operating system that operates on 250MB
That must be a secret ploy to force users to switch to Linux eventually. I’m on board.
Ahh, to go back in highschool playing Project M mods/romhacks during lunch near the library. The first time I’ve touched Linux, using Fedora on a USB 2.0 stick to bypass the main Windows 7 OS on my school laptop.
A time still during Obama, one year before Trump gets elected. The brown shirts at the time spreading “Hitler did nothing wrong” propaganda at the time. And I still had my soul and dignity back then.
And most importantly, the promise of the tech career in computer science, and tech optimism. The future was looking bright then.
I can’t wait to get my TMS treatment soon
