- cross-posted to:
- pcgaming@lemmy.ca
- cross-posted to:
- pcgaming@lemmy.ca
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That’s nice. Affordable RAM when?
I wonder how long it will take the US to view RAM like they view oil and invade China?
I thought they had their eyes on South Korea.
They won’t sell it to you, they’re just making sure they aren’t beholden to the same ram shortages the rest of the world is.
Force countries to pay for it with their currency and this will skyrocket their gdp and currency. Surpassing dollar.
There’s nothing Chinese won’t sell to you
I’m take one Beijing, please.
That’ll be 4 trillion (4×10^12) USD, please
Is this number special, like a recent bribe or something? Or just a high number?
What a bargain!
unless they eventually don’t need foreign currency anymore because their own country produces everything they could ever need or want
I’m sure the elites in China won’t take your money because they have gambling, sports cars, and hookers at home /s
RAM is a commodity, so if this stuff is produced in large quantities, it will affect the global market by lowering China’s demand for imported RAM.
Same as oil and gas, even if North America will never import Iranian product, their prices are affected by that stuff not reaching the market in Asia or whatever and driving up the Asian demand for oil elsewhere.
What about all this other Chinese crap I own?
You see, that is in your own words crap, they keep the good stuff for themselves.
There is some decent Chinese stuff. Sometimes it’s hard to know though with the flood of crap. For example Anker seems consistently decent, but anything that sounds like Qihoon or Xiyomao or whatever random brand word they pop into existence on the other hand…
That was back before tariffs and any goodwill whatsoever dissolved.
Unfortunately because of the wonderful policies by sequential US governments, US citizens will not be able to buy Chinese chips because obviously the chips will spy on you just like Chinese EV’s, routers, phones, toasters, drones, etc. But all the good things by American tech companies whom totally respect your privacy, like Google scrapping all spirit airlines communication, or Flock camera drones, is just fine.
But all the good things by American tech companies whom totally respect your privacy, like Google scrapping all spirit airlines communication, or Flock camera drones, is just fine.
A nationstate, whether a autocracy or even a real democracy, does have a genuine national security interest in preventing foreign spying. No matter how much that nationstate itself spies on its own citizens.
So the argument about domestic spying existing, to argue that Chinese spying does not matter, is quite a non sequitur.
To make a stick of RAM spyware, would cost $100k/stick or more, and the engineering to do so, could make HBM6 instead. By all means investigate the chips to see if magic chips are inside, but that is the approach we should take. Why aren’t Chinese sneakers spying on you? Far easier to hide and do more cheaply.
The hysteria of foreign spyware is shaped by established monopolies who want to keep their monopolies. There is never a proposed solution of actually verifying/inspecting for spyware.
Whom do you consider to be more evil? Trump or JinPing? National states don’t exist anymore. There are two kings, they only lack the title.
Good, more for the rest of the world.
Fortune Cookies banned for being part of elaborate mind control operation.
Pads tears with €
EU taxes the shit out of Chinese electric cars to protect the automotive industry that failed to innovate here. In fact they’ve only been adding more and more taxes and fees on anything that’s imported, usually putting the costs on regular people.
Indeed. Its a complex topic, but import taxes aren’t a (likely) complete corrupt cheeto emabrgo lockdown.
Hopefully since the EU high density desktop/server RAM industry is pretty much nonexistent (as far as I know), they won’t tax it to hell.
China RAM vs US RAM, they are both not EU “allies” now so there should be little reason.
There is zero guarantee China will sell it to consumers given that companies and governments all over the world are willing to pay premium value for current ram prices anyway
Or they just direct them to their own AI projects before any are exported.
We should still benefit from China making good memory chips. Assuming the chips are fungible, China might buy fewer Samsung or Taiwanese chips and that’s more chips for us.
Assuming the chips are fungible, China might buy fewer Samsung or Taiwanese chips and that’s more chips for
usAltman & Amodei
Why not create good will and establish a consumer brand? Undercut everyone.
If this is government backed they can do just about anything they want.
Hehe… Go go China !! Crush those scamming mofo’s from the US controlled sphere of influence…
Competition is good. Two spheres of influence.
Chinese sphere of influence is not good. Theirs includes the worst countries in the world, like North Korea, and Russia.
US Sphere of influence includes Israel, not exactly great TBH.
Yep. At the current rate neither the Chinese nor American states will save us. Neither want democracy or liberty for the average person and value control over any other moral principle.
yes,it’s relly.
Things are moving ahead ahead of schedule.
And I‘m sure Chinese data centers are very happy about it.
Not great with hardware tbh… will I soon be able to nab 64 or 128gb of ddr5 compatible with my American gaming pc?
I doubt the US will allow it in without a heavy tariff
For American consumer, sure.
But there may be price relief as the ultra rich datacenters insist they need to be able to source that Chinese memory and get some special exemptions, probably after a few million in bribes to Trump. That might free up some supply.
…until TACO Tuesday…
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