But not for eating. Don’t trust AI for food or other safety.
Not a hotdog
About the Bosch E-Bike, I have a bike with a Bosch motor and they really are that bad. The bike comes with an app and you need to give them your personal data to “unlock” basic features of the app and an electronic bike lock. If you want to let another person use that bike, you need a subscription. I deleted the app. Fuck Bosch.
Are alternative firmwares available?
I’d be unemployed and in trouble, but sometimes I do wish a gigantic solar storm would cut off the internet for a year. Humanity needs the reset. Please stop shoving Wi-Fi into every device.
Things that can be wifi: my light switches and anything that might’ve had an analog timer back in the day. Anything critical? You can buy an analog sensor that will beep if it’s out of limits, like a freezer alarm.
The rest can f right off.
Light switches can also not be wifi. Hell, id personally prefer them not to
I only use hardwired Ethernet for my light switches
Link to said device?
I was being ironic, I am not aware of any such device
Damn, I had slight hopes such a thing existed
I’m sure they do, but probably in the industrial control sense.
Obviously it would be a choice to have them wifi or not, opt-in, not opt-out. I wasn’t implying anything should be automatically wifi.
Have you ever seen the commercials from late 1800s where there is the word “electricity” in everything. Electrotherapy for every ill and electric solution for every type of drudgery, electrolyte drinks and whatnot. Same came with discovery of radioactivity. Radium drinks for long life and all that. AI is the modern buzzword for the modern snakeoil salesman.
I remember a story my Dad told me. His boss comes in and goes “we need a computer” (this was the 80s). He asked “why”. He couldn’t answer.
AI now is like that, except when someone asks “why”, they get fired and the boss slams it in anyway. It doesn’t make the product better or even more attractive. Dell has admitted that and is the only company to admit that. At best it’s a shite search engine that’s being forced on everyone against their will.
AI chat bots should be OPTIONAL, not forced onto people against their will. At best it’s a shitty search engine, at worse it is a slop machine.
Only practical solution I can think of for an AI chatbot is an optional voice mode where you can go to, say, a ticket machine and be all “hey, cheapest fare to Dundee” or something and it gives you it, but that can be done without fucking the environment and eating all the ram by just having better UI design.
AI chat bots are actually a useful workaround for shitty web uis now. When you don’t know which icon is hiding the thing you want, you can just ask the AI to do it for you.
At the same time, they could easily be a crutch. Why bother designing a good, accessible website if most of the users are just going to access it via a chatbot?
Very good comparison actually.
Samsung said in response that “a trade show floor is naturally very different from a consumer’s home environment. Our Bespoke AI experiences are designed to simplify decisions around the home, making life more convenient and enjoyable.”
The South Korean tech giant also said “security and privacy are foundational” to the AI experiences in the fridge.
They deserve to sell none of their shitty fridges.
This is the same Samsung that sold fridges with giant LCD screens on them, ostensibly to help the buyer, but then later turned that expensive screen into a billboard showing ads to the fridge buyer in their kitchen (source). Samsung has shown who they are. Anyone that buys an AI fridge from them will have no one to blame but themselves.
These also have an entire computer running Tizen behind the screen in the door, which generates waste heat and dumps it… into your refrigerator. Genius!
I feel like the problem here is that you get people who are curious or like the other features the fridge has and just get what they can when theirs goes out. And while, sure, those people learn not to do that again, by that point the industry used that sales data as a “they must like it, lets do it across the board!” Instead of asking people or taking anything else into account when figuring out what products to continue making.
In 10 yrs when those fridges die and people who “learned their lesson” go to buy a new fridge, there will be zero fridges without AI because marketing thought thats why they bought it and no one has any ability to buy a non-AI fridge anymore.
I think you are giving people too much credit. Lots of people have a budget they can spend on appliances (like a credit line) and they get the best (most expensive) one they can get on that budget. Others will do the opposite and get the cheapest but only people like you find on Lemmy (Linux users for instance) in my experience will make a choice in the middle based on feature set.
In 10 yrs when those fridges die and people who “learned their lesson” go to buy a new fridge
That’s more like two years for Samsung fridges, where the designers and builders spend all of their time on fancy horseshit and ignore basic requirements like “keep the food cold”.
I feel like the problem here is that you get people who are curious or like the other features the fridge has and just get what they can when theirs goes out. And while, sure, those people learn not to do that again,
Part of what makes us intelligent is learning from others. I guess I would expect buyers to do even the most basic research on a large dollar figure purchase which would likely expose them to the headlines about Samsung putting ads on fridges after the sale.
Do people actually just walk into an appliance store and just drop more than $1k on what they see on the floor without researching reliability, warranty, or other features from articles and news sources?
Apparently a large percentage of people buy cars without test driving them… so probably.
The South Korean tech giant also said “security and privacy are foundational” to the AI experiences in the fridge.
suck it, Jin Yang“security and privacy are foundational” to the AI experiences in the fridge
My AI-less, internet-less fridge is quite private and secure. Furthermore, it keeps food perfectly cold!
It isn’t sexy, but products that just work are 100x better than products with 40 features that can all brick it for no reason or annoy you to death.
It might not be sexy, but I’d argue it doesn’t need AI to be.
Take the SMEG ones as an example - they’re not my cup of tea, but the amount of people who are willing to pay a premium for a fridge that doesn’t do anything special other than looking nice shows clearly that.
They might also be paying a premium for a refrigerator with that name specifically.
Smeg-heads do be like that.
that’s ma SMEG. They really should think of a name change.
I’ve had a few Samsung appliances. They are, by far, the worst appliances I’ve owned. I will not be buying another from them. If they want to make life more convenient, they need to make better devices, not shove screens, wifi, and AI into their crappy products.
Don’t worry, in the realm of major appliances the majority of what these bozos are calling “AI” actually isn’t. They’re just using it as a buzzword because they think it’s popular.
LG, selling a washing machine two years ago: “It has weight sensors to determine the load size.”
LG, selling the same damn washing machine today: “With exclusive LG® AI DD™ Technology!!!”
a trade show floor is naturally very different from a consumer’s home environment.
So it’s like fashion shows, where they have the most ridiculous shit walking down the catwalk, instead of actual clothes that people will wear?
Even their older, simpler fridges are crappy. We bought one because our previous fridge conked out in mid-pandemic when the selection of new appliances was low. It lasted about three years before developing an issue that would have cost us more to fix than just replacing the damned thing. So we replaced it with some cheaper probably-Chinese brand I’d never heard of before and will never buy another Samsung appliance again if we can help it. AI will just add expensive, useless functions on top of their already poor design and dubious manufacturing.
In other words, if these become the only fridges in existence, I may just try to find out where I can purchase an old-fashioned icebox.
I have a rule: if the company has ever made a mobile phone or TV I will never buy their appliance.
Do they… do they know what the C in CES stands for?
Judging from the way AMD got up and spent all their time talking about their data centre products, nobody does.
cunts
Nothing now. The branding has completely pivoted, CES isn’t even an acronym anymore.
I refuse to buy “smart devices” riddled with AI, it’s just a drag and not what this tech should be used for.
true
Cancer website
Howso?
And they’ll probably shut down the AI servers in a few years for cost reduction making the whole thing a huge waste of money.
That’s the point.
probably shut down the AI servers in a few years for cost reduction making the whole thing a huge waste of money.
It’s like you’ve seen the Portal video chat units. (What a beautiful piece of hardware)
I’m holding off until HD AI.
3D A.I.
AI eXtreme!
We’re going back to the late nineties.
iAI
I’m just going to install a door knocker.
The hot new category at CES 2027 is going to be AI-powered auto door knockers.
“It automatically does a facial scan of any household visitors using Palantir’s database and knocks the way they would have.”
“Couldn’t they just, you know, knock?”
“Sure, but then how would we track who’s visiting you while making you pay the power bill for our surveillance devices?”
Screaming is well and good to build public opinion against this stupidity, but all the CEOs in their towers will heed is no sales.
We need to make it uncool to like or tolerate AI bullshit in consumer products.
If you have friends, and they show you their new fridge with a touch screen, don’t be polite. Tell them it’s the stupidest thing you’ve ever seen, and then mock them for choosing it every chance you get. And, no, I don’t have friends anymore (but, this is not why).
Heckling your friends after they dropped $3k on some sloppy fridge is kinda cruel. Advise them hard when they ask for advice - here’s where you say “everyone will laugh” and “stupidest idea” - but commiserate when they realize what they’ve got.
You want to be in a position to offer advice for the next sloppy purchase.
Could preface it with “are you still in the return period for this thing?”.
Hey…ummm, can we be friends?
Hilarious. I bite my tongue so often around these kinds of situations it has permanent tooth imprints in it. But you’re right, someone needs to figure out how to get them to stop tolerating this horrific nonsense.
I just installed a new doorbell button, the little light burned out in my old one.
I don’t have a “security” camera. As far as I can tell, all they do is provide a memento of the crime after the fact, and prompt my neighbors to worry about “suspicious” people outside walking. They seem to do the opposite of making people feel more secure. They seem to raise anxiety.
Cameras don’t stop anyone, but I still have few recording my yard. It’s more of a hobby and I’m planning to integrate person detection on those to home automation but for me it’s also a small piece of peace on my mind. Should someone steal my car trailer (or a car) I’d have some footage for the police and insurance. Also a while ago we had a decent storm around and we weren’t at home so it was nice that I could check for possible damages remotely.
But absolute majority of time I don’t even think about them. I don’t have any notifications enabled, I’m not interested about neighbors cat running across our yard or getting interruptions every time someone on the family comes or goes. And while Frigate has some AI things built in, the whole thing runs locally. There’s no way I’d install nest or some other camera which sends/stores data to anywhere which isn’t 100% in my control.
My dad installed cheap chinese cams all over his place and his job now is to check the footage to see if there is anything suspicious. There’s never anything suspicious and he’s just wasting his time while also getting more paranoid. The biggest issue I see is that he hoards chinesium and bloats his phone with it. It’ infuriating.
I have a button for a doorbell at my door. Hasn’t worked since I moved in. If I wanted it to work and raise anxiety I would figure out how to make it spray water on whoever is at the door.
I’m pretty sure I had a musical lollipop back in the 90s.
Edit: I found the commercial https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XoUGYfUvgn4
at this point its a glorified Market Saturation.
