Can anyone give recommendations on what to do if you have to run Autodesk products (Revit. Autocad) for work? No, I can’t swap them for open source alternatives such as FreeCAD as Im working with large international projects. Should I dual boot? Virtual machine inside Linux?
For the gamers here using Linux: what about Discord? One of my only social outlets currently is unfortunately through Discord with some friends. There any issues with drivers for headsets and/or Discord having issues?
Edit: Thanks for the responses everyone!!
Discord has a version for Linux. I use it, and it’s pretty much the same experience as in winblows.
Sometimes screen sharing my desktop/games crashes Discord or it just doesn’t work. Not a big deal and works 70% of the time.
When I have to use discord, I use it in the browser. I don’t trust the app not to get up to no good.
Discord has an official client for Linux. Also it works well in a Browser. I use it regularly without issues.
I use discord via browser on my Linux.
Discord works absolutely fine in Linux. I use “Vesktop” which is a desktop client for Discord. Performance is identical to using the Discord app in Windows AFAIK.
I use discord flatpak and it works flawlessly. You will need to check your specific headset of course
Discord is a horrible product and we should be steering people away from it and towards a federated alternative like Matrix.
That said, it works fine on Linux. The only issue is that updating it requires editing a text file because the incompetent cunts at the company can’t be arsed to develop their product properly.
I have some issues making screenshares with the native app. But the browser version works flawlessly.
I had the same problem, but it turned out to be Wayland support, which is now fixed.
Have had absolutely 0 issues with the official discord linux desktop app for a couple years now. Works just the same as windows
Well, Discord is available on Linux, Archlinux for example has the package and I suppose this is true for many other distros.
Posting from a 13 year old Windows 7 64 bit gaming desktop. Come get me Gates…
Isn’t that a massive security risk?
Yes.
Do you play any games with kernel anti cheat? I assumed a lot of anti cheat systems would have dropped support for win 7 by now. I stayed on win 7 as long as I could (I had non gaming compatibility issues). I feel like it was peak windows. Had they put the win 10 performance improvements in to win 7, it would have been perfection.
Don’t downgrade to Windows 11, update to Linux
Did it last month. Just open your mind like a flower in the morning, and it will only hurt a little.
What is this AI everywhere concept actually supposed to accomplish for the end user? Maybe I’m just behind on the vision but I can’t grasp the point. I have a feeling it’s not really about what the users want but I’d love to here a genuinely good use case.
They’ve invested lots of money in AI systems and found out that people do not want to use them, so if they make them unavoidable and force people to use it.
Capitalism does that sometimes.
Like google plus.
For me the Apple environment really cemented for me that consumers actively enjoy removing their own autonomy structurally, which is a big part of why this stuff has become so normalized.
Putting a rootkit on their cds should have buried sony. Antitrust should be a thing too. The mickey mouse protection act should have socially killed Disney, which only found success by exploiting works that no longer held copyright. Etc.
Those with power have lost all accountability, and all tools, especially AI, will be used against us if we do not cooperatively figure out how to fix the increasing power imbalance.
The more power someone has, the harder the gavel should fall on them when they fuck the entire planet in whichever way.
At this point, any new consumer friendly behaviour comes only to establish territory before hoarding and exploiting when enabled to do so.
Amazon using deceptive design to influence general user behaviours should lead to billions and billions in fines until changed. Etc.
Build local movements to cooperate at larger scale and fight back. If the general public is ranting about planned obsolescence and general monopolistic behaviours, maybe something could be affected before people are forced into violent desperation. People are too busy being mad at each other for some intentionally divisive narrative or another, and the general public just can’t give a fuck about affecting the people who actually dictate the shape of society.
Also if you burn down all AI this is still true. But it’s easier to yell at technology than they system using it to further remove your autonomy.
it’s like having 10 walmarts in one town. they are selling their investors infinite growth by showing a huge uptick in users through unavoidable systems being piled on. like how retail used to sell their investors on square footage going up every year by X amount. it gooses the stock and it doesn’t matter than your losing money or destroying your business doing it, because the stocks going up RIGHT NOW is the only goal.
It’s to make it easier for the end user to do what they want to. People are best at communicating by talking and writing, so having the ability to get things done using natural language is kinda the holy grail.
Being able to summarise/edit/create documents/images/videos, automate tasks, change settings, etc by a simple conversation is an end user dream.
How many misunderstandings happen because people are bad at both writing and talking?
The answer is, a great deal.
Your answer is nonsense.
There is no real use case for the user. There are only use cases for the company.
I’d say there would be a great benefit for a lot of e.g. disabled people who can’t use the traditional inputs. Not saying that as a pro-ai/pro-win argument. Just that there actually will be good use-cases.
That’s not a use case for users. That’s a use case for a very specific sub group who likely weren’t using the OS at all. Not saying it’s not good they would be able to if that works for them, which I doubt.
Its still not a reason to foist it onto all of us
Didn’t say that was a reason to gulp it down. Just that the use cases aren’t zero.
Knew a quadriplegic that gamed with her mouth on windows. A really well working, integrated “ai” would’ve dramatically improved her life and saved her hundreds of thousands for all the equipment and tech-guys. And yes, that’s a very limited use case, but would allow poorer disabled people to also use a computer better.
But that’s really all good reasons I can come up with. For all else noone needs the shit baked into the OS.
This is what people are currently doing right? people are not writing mails anymore, this just became too time consuming.
At the same time this may be the limit of the current AI models. Me wanting to configure something on my computer that can be Googled and the AI does this for me on verbal prompt is kind of stupid but people are stupid.
The real danger with this is total surveillance of your activity and possibly making you and your office job obsolete. At least they are attempting this.
I’m trying out Bazzite, and although it does take a little tweaking sometimes, I haven’t encountered a game I can’t run yet, including features like HDR and DLSS.
But nearly no multiplayer will work (due to stupid anti-cheat) Which is a very large base of the gamers who can never switch, even if they’d want to.
Almost all multiplayer games work even with anti-cheat. The once that do not use kernel level root kits for anti cheat. Vanguard is even worse then a normal root kit as it forces it self to be loaded with the OS.
But d2, cod and others won’t. So already millions of gamers that couldn’t switch. Me included. Love d2.
And I didn’t say it’s good or that those root kits won’t suck. I just stated those players can’t switch. No matter how great all linuxes are (I run 20 Linux vs 5 win machines at home, so I do favor it).
Have you tried out Steam on there? I don’t know if there are any workarounds to running Steam games that require Windows; otherwise I’d probably switch one of my last Windows machines over.
Steam is absolutely the EASIEST way to run games on Linux.
It abstracts Wine, Proton and all the other dependencies so you don’t have to think about it much.
You just install it, download and play exactly the same as you would on Windows.
There is also Heroic launcher, which is a similarly streamlined experience for Gog. (And Epic and Prime Games, if you’re into those)
Don’t some games have a “Windows only” logo on them? Are you saying it will use Wine to launch Windows only games?
I haven’t tried it yet out of sheer laziness, since I already have several Linux bare metal/VM instances running. Right now I have a Windows machine mostly dedicated to Steam. I have sometimes launched Steam on my macs.
Yes, that’s right. Steam can play windows-only games via Proton, which is the exact same thing they are doing on Steam Deck. Steam Deck is what really motivated a lot of work in this area, and why the situation is so good these days.
It sounds like you’ve already got plenty of Linux machines, so perhaps try it for yourself and see.
Well, damn. I might have to get a low-end “gaming” machine and use Linux on it. Windows is so frustrating to use - I don’t want to have my identity managed by their stupid fucking cloud just for a low-end gaming machine. They try to hide the local user path and they seem to keep trying to further enshittify everything about trying to use an OS for the way I want to use it. (Reminds me: I need to read Cory’s book)
I’ve used Windows off and on for years - I mostly stopped paying much attention to MS once I was able to use Mac/Linux for my work daily driver, and only use it in anger for things like gaming and mining.
Just note that (unless they’ve changed the default), you need to enable a setting in Steam to make it always use proton, or it will look like reality matches up with your previous expectations. I believe the setting is under compatability in the steam global settings.
Also be aware that the steam deck compatability icon cares about two things that might not apply to a linux desktop: it loses points for keyboard/mouse centric games (which work fine if you actually use a kb/m instead of controller), and it also cares about how that game will perform on steam deck hardware, though if your gaming PC isn’t very strong, that one might be useful for you.
Protondb has the more accurate compatability info, though it’s crowd sourced, so might not have up to date info on more obscure titles (though it does seem kinda like every single game has at least a small community obsessed with it that consider it the greatest game).
Don’t forget Lutris. It may take a bit more tinkering than Steam, but if you have loose games or use multiple games launchers, Lutris can combine them all into one neat and tidy launcher.
Steam is honestly your best shot for getting a game to run, they’ve worked pretty hard on their compatibility layer.
I’ve been using Steam on Linux for a few years. Check out Proton DB for game compatibility.
Thanks. Appreciate the info. I’m kinda jazzed about this, TBH. I might buy another low-end gaming machine - this one was one I had specced out in late 2020, but it’s running out of disk space as gave it a very small drive - throw Linux on there, and start migrating over…I don’t want to play high-end games, mostly Metroidvania type of things and my kids play mostly the same types of things - stuff like Undertale, etc.
Linux is always such a pleasure to use. I’d love to remove yet another Windows machine from my life…
Yes Steam is the main tool Im using to run games, even non-Steam games.
Bazzite also comes with Lutris which will set up some wine wrappers for you, which work fine, but Steam gives you things like Steam Input. I’ve never seen a controller mapper as good as Steam Input.
I don’t know what the performance comparison between Valve’s Proton and current FOSS variants of Wine is.
My current workflow is to use Lutris to manage games from GoG (no GoG Galaxy on Linux). I install them via Lutris, and then add them as non-Steam games to Steam, which lets me use Proton and Steam Input. The only game I’ve installed so far that I’m not running through Steam right now is Minecraft.
The only loss is I can’t run Destiny 2 on Linux due to its invasive anti-cheat, but I was on the verge of quitting D2 anyway. Note that some games with invasive anti-cheat can still be run through proton, it depends on the specifics.
About Minecraft - what launcher(s) are you using on Linux? One of my kids is going through and playing all the old versions of the game, but I don’t know if that would work on Linux?
Prism Launcher shows up in flat hub (the “app store” that comes with Bazzite).
It manages different Minecraft instances of different versions, and helps manage mods, texture packs, shaderpacks, etc.
(But in general, all versions of Minecraft: Java Edition support Linux, and most if not all Minecraft launchers, including the official one, support Linux)
I use prism launcher for Java edition Minecraft both on windows and Linux. (Good for modded setups and pinning versions as well much better than stock)
Its in Flathub on Linux (mint in my case)
Another good one to have is the Heroic launcher. You can add your Epic store games there as well.
I’ve been on Debian for a couple years since Windows 10 came out. Not sure what this fuss has been about, but I’m glad I switched when I did.
Not sure what this fuss has been about, but I’m glad I switched when I did.
The fuss is about those who haven’t switched yet. They’re being forced to swallow a big, fat AI pill.
I hate this world. Linux it is then.
yeah, I updated one machine that was running Win10, it’s now running LinuxMint
Same here. I actually had windows 11 for a bit… but not any more. I went linux and never looked back.
My friend finally pulled the linux trigger after being a windows user and they love it! The excitement is amazing I love it.
Just made the switch and it feels good
They are shoving AI down our throats.
Because it makes them a lot of potential money. This has been going on since business as old as radioshack logged phone numbers initially to the dismay of the consumer, and whatever the fuck probably bothered people about capitalist practices and privacy before that. I will never understand the hate boner for AI because I rarely if ever encounter it and if I do it’s backend like the thousands of learned algorithms before it. I think AI might actually be revolutionary the way lemmy acts like it impacts their day to day lives.
I finally troubleshooted why my Linux usb boot drive wasn’t working. Planning on making the switch when I have time off work.
So long as I can get Steam and Jellyfin working, I’ll never switch back.
Jellyfin works well on linux.
Bazzite was the distro that got me to kill the Windows 10 install on my gaming machine. Steam Deck catalyzed the move, but Bazzite was the final piece. Steam comes pre-baked in Bazzite, as does your graphics drives, and some multi-store frontends (I forget which atm), and some other quality of life bits. And Jellyfin Media Player is on Flathub, so installs easily via Flatpak.
We have three windows laptops in the house. All for use in schools which were always heavily pro-Microsoft here. I haven’t paid much attention to Windows 11. The last time I used Windows other than setting it up or fixing it for someone else was probably XP. All three users of those laptops come home from school/work, put them on a charger then head to a linux machine to play games, edit video etc. They know they have linux support and they have grown up with Linux. Not one of them has asked to upgrade their laptops to Linux yet.
Perhaps Microsoft isn’t annoying regular users as much as the tech press and tech users think they are. Remember people still use shit like Facebook not just willingly but in some cases enthusiastically. We are a diverse lot. Some people, probably the majority, will put up with the same shit every day and not think to change their environment. I don’t know whether it is too difficult or they are scared of change or they don’t realize it is possible or perhaps they simple aren’t bothered by the same things. Possibly all of the above.
some influencers will shift, some ppl will copy them and so on, people do like customizing, they just have to see others like them or those they like using it
Most of the people who are going to leave for Linux right now were probably going to leave anyway once Linux provided what they needed (eg Proton support for most of their game library). Linux has always been a lot of fun for serious tinkerers. Curious types would already have at least tried linux in a vm or dual boot but were being held back my some app or game.
My family has grown up with Linux desktops and gaming and is very comfortable using Linux for boring normie stuff but they aren’t power users. They use what is installed and what is installed is Linux. But when they have Windows installed on their school computers they don’t seem to care. It does all the same things, just differently. One of my kids had several keys not working on his laptop keyboard and just put up with it for ages without telling anyone. Makes no sense. They are my only window into the Microsoft world and what I see is complacency. I think most people have a huge capacity to put up with annoyances before they will take action and power users and enterprise can disable a lot of the shittier features.
Microsoft can probably go a lot further extracting revenue from their users through dark patterns, additional paid services, marketing, sales of data etc. They are a for profit company in a time when it is not just normal but expected that companies will cannibalize their long term potential for short term profit taking. I suspect Windows 11 will get a lot worse but if you walk into a store to buy a new laptop its still going to be the only pre-installed option outside of Apple or Chromebooks for years to come.
Called it
The logic behind the voice controls sounds pretty questionable, but it’s supposedly backed by data showing that users spend billions of minutes talking in Microsoft Team meetings, according to Mehdi — so they’re already used to talking on the computer, right?
Do they really reason like this? Oh my. That’s stupid. And here I was thinking Microsoft employs clever people.
As with a lot of corporate thinking, someone is tasked to justify the idea after the fact. Its not that they are unclever but that they think backwards. Conclusion first, support later.
Is that like deciding that Tylenol causes Autism, then trying to find evidence after making an announcement?
Yes, that’s a great example. I have had to deal with people that worked in such an environment and its wild. They actually thought that reports needed to show only good since that was their job before, we are talking about inventory reports being changed to be perfect as that was what they thought was wanted even though it made the report pointless.
And during those billions of minutes, most of them are cursing the existence of the spyware experience that is teams.
I was thinking Microsoft employs clever people
As a programmer, I’ve had numerous colleagues who have ended up as software engineers at MS. They were mostly either unbelievably lazy or extremely incompetent. The rest who were both ended up there as managers.
Microsoft’s technology specialist are top notch regarding their own product. The other 90% are sales(wo)men and their managers.
I moved to pop!_os on the 14th and I am not looking back
Same (from macOS). Work and personal machines.
good for you.
remember, you’re not alone and many people are making the switch. find a community you like and help each other.
Welcome. It’s a good OS for me.
