Dog whistling bullshit. “Obongo”, “waahh socialised medicine is the reason i’m trapped in a poverty spiral” get faaarked
It’s just an expression of the republican fantasy that a strong welfare state causes people to be lazy
When in reality they make it so you have to choose.
Ah yes, “I don’t care who pays for my benefits or how much they suffer, they’re probably racist dickheads anyways”.
Very compassionate indeed.
you’re coming a long way, anon. start studying socialist theory. actually, how do i study socialist theory in a way that makes it easy and fun?
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If he wasnt stuck working 25 hours a week and was able to do 40hr a week he’d be living pretty well.
Why is obamacare limiting him to 25 hours?
Their employer is a scumbag. Instead of being mad the actual problem, they choose to believe their exploitative employer, who throws their hands up and claims “it’s not MY fault you aren’t paid enough!”
Part-time employees don’t get benefits, so they limit you to just under what is considered full-time employment because they hate you.
Isn’t being poor cool?
It’s not, his boss is.
Don’t blame the ACA, those companies always had people working part time and just lowered the hours further.
Those companies would be screwing you regardless, you can’t get a company to do anything but acquire profit without government to restrain them, otherwise they run the show and would own you as a slave. Only government limits their power, which would be absolute otherwise.
Unfortunately, our government is now under the control of corporations and has been for some time (since at least “money is free speech” and “corporations are people” court victories), defeating it’s purpose. We used to break up monopolies and remove business licenses for unlawful practices! The good old days.
Hmmm, if corporations are people, and they make and employ AI, that means AI is people or something. So that’s kinda neat.
Clearly government has failed in limiting their power.
The 4channer should just get another part time job so they can work 50 hours a week and not have any time to themselves, that’s the new American Dream
You could achieve high levels and acquire epic loot in your favorite MMORPG. That’s something, right?
This really puts to heart one of the issues with our current perception of minimum wage.
People will look at that and say… Yeah but they can afford to live and not realize that we have made a slave out of the worker who can neber better themselves or get more.
They have barely enough to have the barest essentials and tell them unironically to just better themselves or figure out how to be more productive and they can be rewarded while the reward just being a nicer endenturement.The american experiment was to get people to be able to grow and develop more because of the new efficiency giving more spare money amd resources to create more. When you have more spare money you can buy more things at the end of the day.
Now its ablut how long can we keep it chugging along with nothing changing so the same people and same groups can keep everything as it is.This is no longer a wage that makes us all equal but gives us the right to fail of our own accord but makes it so that you must struggle to keep going at all.
Only good capitalist is a dead capitalist.
Tightly regulated ones are ok…
I hate to break it to you 4chan dwelling normie fucking stupid shit head, but that 25 hrs a week is not because of the Affordable Care Act. It’s because of greedy capitalist fucks who are squeezing you for every cent they give you to maximize profit margins well beyond what they need to for a healthy business model.
Healthy businees model will not cut it these days. Infinite growrh or your investors abandon you.
They were keeping people below full time hours to begin with, it just got lowered to squeeze that extra penny from their buttholes.
Yeah that stuck out at me too. I love how the conservative media has thoroughly convinced the average dimwitted moron from flyover states that all of their problems are because of Obamacare and not because of the greed of their employer and the laws that they have enticed Congress to enact in their favor to prevent them from having to employ people full time.
Obamacare includes a minimum hour exemption and it should have been obvious to the authors of the bill that employers would cut hours to hit that mark.
You’re expecting people who are worth a minimum of 7 figures to consider the plight of people who struggle to maintain 5 figures. Companies were already lowering time employees worked to begin with regardless.
I’m saying the ACA was a bad bill that was never intended to help anyone but insurance companies. We shouldn’t be shocked that it includes workarounds for other businesses. Of course it does. Obama and the others who passed it knew that when they passed it. Thats why they wrote it that way.
True enough. It’s your typical Democrat work, make a half measure that doesn’t readily improve the situation but looks like it can.
It’s because of greedy capitalist fucks who are squeezing you
A healthcare system that makes everyone dependent on employers really makes it easy for them.
Medicare For All is about a lot more than just healthcare.
It’s kinda both. The ACA was based on Heritage Foundation work that was done for the benefit of insurance companies. Not much consideration was put into the behaviors it would incentivize in employers.
So it’s because of Biden? I will not listen to your sourced explanation BTW
The capitalist fucks are swinging the whip. The 25-hour limit is the whip they are swinging. Both are a problem.
Anon needs to redirect his hatred.
born in 1949 Don’t have to fight in a war
Hmmm
you could pay not to fight iirc, like straight up just pay to not go. didn’t even have to fake it via some bullshit doctors note like vietnam
My dad was born in 49, he never had to fight in a war. On the other hand it would have been a hell of a ride for him to tramp to Woodstock from western Europe.
Putting it in context, it’s probably right. There are a lot of different swathes/classes of boomer, and the ones that would be able to do the listed in lines 7-10 are probably not the ones that were targeted for conscription in vietnam.
No doubt, but at least we’re acknowledging 'Nam.
It’s Korea that typically gets ignored in the US. In fact, that war does fall under the time-frame we’re looking at and wikipedia says about 1.5 million were drafted for it.
Someone born in 1949 would not have to fight in a war that ended when they were 4 years old.
nam wasn’t a ‘war’ /s
My husband and I are moving from California to Yucatán in April. Hopefully the cost of living there gives us a better quality of life.
you’re gonna feel real stupid when that meteor comes for round 2
We’ll wear helmets.
$115 a month phone/internet? Are US prices really that insane? My phone is £4 a month for unlimited calls/SMS and got an unlimited data SIM for a 4G router that costs £24/month.
Anecdotally: I’ve lived in the sort of place he’s describing and the internet was an overpriced monopoly. Farmers and people in larger cities both paid much better prices for better service. But the ISP had some deal where they had exclusive rights to run equipment on the power poles (or other companies needed their technicians present first or some bullshit which they would delay to the point of impracticality).
At $115 he probably didn’t get the lowest speed and could have done like $60 for internet and $40 for phone but yeah, I can believe it.
4/5G, fuck their monopoly. If people leave they will have to actually compete. It’s fine for gaming too, been using 4G for years without an issue. At some point I should upgrade my router to 5G though.
That’s about correct, idk what everyone else is on about, but my phone costs me $70 a month, and my Internet costs $60, and those were the cheapest plans I could get. Not to mention that the reason my phone bill isn’t higher is because I had to buy my phone outright at $600.
Shits expensive here, for no reason other than corporate greed.
Phone service is only expensive because your paying for the privilege of priority. Go with MVNOs and its reasonable, just the service is slower in congested areas.
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It’s not actually as cheap as they say, and what you’re getting isn’t really worth the price.
Regardless, when the thing being said is “wages are crap, things are expensive, people are trapped and can’t afford a future” it sorta misses the point to say that they could get substantially worse service for roughly half the price.
I appreciate you quoting all of the fine print, what is the actual gotcha you’re taking away from it? The biggest “gotcha” that in seeing is you have to prepay, which is mints while thing. The second gotcha I can see is that the free phone line they throw in is only good for a year? Which is fine. You’d go from $40/month to $55, still less than half of what was described in the post.
Regardless, when the thing being said is “wages are crap, things are expensive, people are trapped and can’t afford a future”
I understand that’s the point of the overall post, but I’m answering a question asking if internet and cell service is really that expensive in the US.
It’s doing a disservice to pretend like it is when there are much more affordable alternatives. Not only is the typical market price cheaper than what is mentioned in the post, but if you’re on many government aid programs, you qualify for subsidized phone and internet. Pairing the two seemingly adds up to $25/month.
How much do you pay for Internet and cell service that meets your needs?
Why would you pay $30 for unlimited data and then pay another $50 a month on top of that for a second unlimited data? Unless you are running a bunch of servers for people outside of your LAN, what is the point?
Don’t know about US, but where I live, the “unlimited mobile Internet” is always “fast connection up to X GBs used, then you slow down to a crawl where loading a text-only website takes three minutes, but you’re still technically not limited and can access the Internet” kind of deal.
Not sure exactly what they go with but it’s never been a problem even downloading several big games from steam. I suppose if you want TBs a month you may want to look into the fine print.
The $30 is for mobile service, the $50 is for home Internet service.
4G can be home internet too, stick a regular SIM card into a 4G router. Probably 5G now but my setup is a few years old.
Yes, in fact that’s on the cheap side for unlimited with decent speeds for both services.
that’s cheap. i oftne pay well over $150 a month for basic interent and phone plan for single person.
Oh wow, what companies do you use?
Most ISPs and cellular plans charge out the ass for arbitrary data limits and faster speeds in the U.S. Some areas have decent ISPs not trying to nickel and dime you but not super common.
Can you only get regional 4/5G plans?
Wouldn’t the fix just be to patch the obamacare workaround?
There are a number of potential fixes.
Universal healthcare is one. Completely separate employment from healthcare.
Restore the tax structure we had in our most prosperous decade: 91% top-tier rate. Nobody ever paid that rate; nobody will ever pay that rate. That rate compels businesses to spend $10,000 on “business expenses” rather than keep $900 and pay Uncle Sam $9100. They get to keep $10,000 worth of tangible goods and services, purchased on the market. Or, $900 cash, that they can convert into financial instruments.
We could assign all healthcare bills to the richest person in the country. When we take enough from Musk that Bezos catches up, they can split the bill between them. When they get down to Zuck, they split it three ways. Nobody gets to be the richest. The competition switches from dollars to number of lives saved.
Or, we could roll out the guillotines again. Behead the most problematic tranche of capitalists (as evidenced by their degree of wealth). Repeat as necessary.
